I could see ISS getting a big box as one of the two Convention slots next year. Gen Con 2023 is the launch of Warcrow Skirmish, so I doubt we'll see an Infinity Battle Pack at the same time, there also wouldn't be the releases that usually follow a battle pack (support, Remotes, TAG, hero, etc) as they've already released for all the factions. I wouldn't be that surprised if we saw a second N4 Action Pack at Gen Con, frankly any Sectorial that doesn't have an Action Pack or Army Box could be considered a candidate as we know CB are moving away from small 6 mini starter boxes.
It's the launch of the board game, Not the Skirmish yet. But I think you might be on to something there. They will have all C1 armies out. So a couple of army boxes and Warcrow is plenty for the year.
Dungeon Crawler goes to Kickstarter this Autumn, looks like they might have a demo set at Gen Con this week. The skirmish game is currently penciled in for Gen Con 2023
Update of new figures. I'm not sure if I should count Bixie since it's not a general release. 2022 New figure Releases AS OF September. Combined Army, 6 Releases, 18 Figures Aleph, 4 Releases, 14 Figure Haqqislam, 4 Releases, 12 Figure PanO, 4 Releases, 10 figures O-12, 4 Releases, 9 Figures NA2, 4 Releases, 4 figures Yu Jing, 3 Releases, 4 figures (Shaolin, Hundun, Tian Gou not counting Madtraps) Ariadna, 2 Releases, 2 Figures Nomads, 1 Releases, 1 Figure 2021 New figure Releases Nomads 7 Releases, 23 figures PanO 7 Releases, 21 figures Ariadna 6 Releases, 15 figures O-12 7 Releases, 14 Figures NA2 9 Releases, 13 Figures Combined Army 5 Releases, 12 Figures Yu Jing 4 Releases, 10 figures Haqqislam 2 Releases, 2 figures Aleph 2 Releases, 2 Figures 2020 New figure Release O-12 8 Releases, 24 Figures Combined Army 9 Releases, 16 Figures Yu Jing 7 Releases, 12 Figures Ariadna 3 Releases, 12 Figures NA2 7 Releases, 12 Figures Aleph 1 Releases, 10 Figures PanO 5 Releases, 9 Figures Nomads 3 Releases, 6 Figures Haqqislam 2 Releases, 2 Figures 2023 New figure Releases Prediction Yu Jing (guessing: Revised ISS or New sectoral?) Haqqislam Aleph Combined Army Nomads PanO Ariadna O-12 NA2
I would not count her, but make a note that she is available in lim.ed. this year. I would recommend the sorting from the latest year on the top of the post to the future year (2023) at the bottom. I appreciate your work here. Maybe you are able to add the kind of release to the other years? We are still missing some profiles: IA Liu Xing - MR and SF Hulang - SMG Haidao - RF (to be honest, I do not miss this profile, but I would be a nice opportunity for a female ;-) Mowang - SF (I guess we will not see this profile, sometime I think CB wants us to proxy :-( Lei Gong - MMR (only available as a lim ed) Alternate versions of Krit and Tai (hey, other characters have mulitple personalitys already) Yan Huo - M-HMG Zuyong - Combi/Paramedic (one is not enough) ISS Zhanying - Heavy weapons (but I do not miss them) Hsien - MMR Crane - Combi Resculpt (hey good opportunity to upgrade this to Multi Rifle, gives him mov 6-2 and make him a little bit cheaper) and/or Hacker Su Jian - HSG - another one, that we will not see before a genral resculpt - and not realy miss - the current one is ace. WB Tian - RF (nothing I miss too bad, but I see uses) Hundun - SMR (yes I want) Ye Mao - MR (I am happy, I have the lim ed :-) Daofei - Hacker (with discount for the lost HMG please!) Jujak - BSG/Engineer (and the opportunity to give them Imm.Cont.Dam. and change BSG to Vulcan SG) Kwon - SMR (oh I do not use the original so far, because the box is not painted yet) Guilang Combi / Hacker - yes only resculpt, but in dire need (nobody realy wanted the sniper, CB) But ... what will happen, when we got them all?
Knowing CB, they will make new troops before filling out existing ones. The only things I want are some guilang, they should have come out near Kaldstrom, Liu Xing spitfire and MR.
Updated with releases coming out in October. There's also word of a new Kanren coming out in November. See link and images here. I'm not adding it below until it actually shows in pre-order. There's also the new Dire Foes with Qiang Gao vs. Uma Sorensen. By the end of the year, Yu Jing will end up with 6-7 figures for the year. A Kanren coming out further makes me think next year ISS will get something big. There's already two Kanren. One of them covers all guns and the other all hackers. So what could this be? Edit: Per Colbrook's post, this could be just a re-package of the two Kanren into one. 2022 New figures Releases AS OF October. Combined Army, 7 Releases, 19 Figures Aleph, 5 Releases, 16 Figures Haqqislam, 4 Releases, 12 Figures PanO, 4 Releases, 10 figures O-12, 4 Releases, 9 Figures NA2, 4 Releases, 4 figures Yu Jing, 3 Releases, 4 figures (Shaolin, Hundun, Tian Gou not counting Madtraps) Ariadna, 3 Releases, 3 Figures Nomads, 2 Releases, 2 Figures 2021 New figure Releases Nomads 7 Releases, 23 figures PanO 7 Releases, 21 figures Ariadna 6 Releases, 15 figures O-12 7 Releases, 14 Figures NA2 9 Releases, 13 Figures Combined Army 5 Releases, 12 Figures Yu Jing 4 Releases, 10 figures Haqqislam 2 Releases, 2 figures Aleph 2 Releases, 2 Figures 2020 New figure Release O-12 8 Releases, 24 Figures Combined Army 9 Releases, 16 Figures Yu Jing 7 Releases, 12 Figures Ariadna 3 Releases, 12 Figures NA2 7 Releases, 12 Figures Aleph 1 Releases, 10 Figures PanO 5 Releases, 9 Figures Nomads 3 Releases, 6 Figures Haqqislam 2 Releases, 2 Figures 2023 New figure Releases Prediction Yu Jing (guessing: Revised ISS or New sectoral?) Haqqislam Aleph Combined Army Nomads PanO Ariadna O-12 NA2
The two existing Kanren are going OOP on the 30th of October so this looks to be SKU consolidation rather than a new sculpt.
Ah good point. I didn't know the single ones were being OOP. I think you are correct. But by them even doing this means they are not getting rid of them.
For the fun of it, I created what could be a cool new box set for ISS. It's based on what we have now though. I'm sure they would come out with something new for it though. That seems to be the norm when they do things like this. MO, Morats, etc. It's mostly made of troops that don't have figures for that profiles, like BSG Su Jian, ABH sniper and SMG, CSU Breaker, etc. It can do two 2 haris with a huge mix of troops. Box set ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 10 SÙ-JIÀN Heavy Shotgun(+1B), Panzerfaust / Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 50) HSIEN MULTI Marksman Rifle, Nanopulser ( | TinBot: Firewall [-6]) / Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 53) CRANE AGENT (Triangulated Fire, Sensor, X Visor) MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser(+1B) ( ) / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 46) PHEASANT IMPERIAL AGENT (Hacker, Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, E/Mitter ( ) / Breaker Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0.5 | 30) BÀO TROOP MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 29) BÀO TROOP Combi Rifle, Light Shotgun, Flash Pulse / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 24) ZHÀNYING (Sensor, Triangulated Fire) Breaker Combi Rifle, Chain-colt / Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0 | 21) BOUNTY HUNTER Sniper Rifle / Breaker Pistol(+1B), PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0.5 | 19) BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0 | 12) CSU (Specialist Operative) Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser(+1B) / Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0 | 15) 2.5 SWC | 299 Points Open in Infinity Army
Not a bad 300 point box, but if they do a box set for ISS it's probably going to come with a small rework and a small rework will likely come with a couple of new releases like they typically do and one or two of them will be in the box set :) Don't think we'll see more than at most a single merc in the box, and most likely a merc closely associated with ISS rather than a general merc. Locking ABH and CSU behind an ISS box would have PanO and NA2 community seething. Bao, though, def getting a new mini at least.
The last three N4/Sectorial Action Packs have also only been 9 models, it's also very rare for them to be 300 points, even Operation+Beyond Action Packs are skewing closer to 250 points. ABH/CSUs would make great convention exclusives to release at the same time THOUGH, like Mendoza and Montesa with the MOAP, Su Jian is unlikely IMO because it needs two large miniatures in the BOX. We've also got to bear in mind that an Action Pack would be replacing the current starter, something like this would be neat: Obligatory 3 Celestial as cheerleaders Hsien Crane hacker Pheasant combi New S5 HI or S6 TAG with APHMG or other suitably heavy weapon Baoying multi sniper (new profile combining/replacing Bao and Xanying) New S2 skirmisher/forward deployment style unit
Others might be pissed about ABH and CSU in a YJ box but I would be laughing! But yes you are probably right. Like I said, I went with figures that mostly don't already exist or are likely to get new figures. There wasn't much I could work with so I had to add ABH and CSU. Below I allowed for the Su Jian having 2 figures and no ABH and CSU. 10 Figures but 9 orders and 300pts. Box set ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 9 SÙ-JIÀN Heavy Shotgun(+1B), Panzerfaust / Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 50) HSIEN MULTI Marksman Rifle, Nanopulser ( | TinBot: Firewall [-6]) / Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 53) CRANE AGENT (Hacker, Hacking Device, Hacking Device) MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser(+1B) ( ) / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0.5 | 46) PHEASANT IMPERIAL AGENT (Hacker, Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, E/Mitter ( ) / Breaker Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0.5 | 30) BÀO TROOP MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 29) BÀO TROOP Combi Rifle, Light Shotgun, Flash Pulse / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 24) BÀO TROOP Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 22) ZHÀNYING (Sensor, Triangulated Fire) Breaker Combi Rifle, Chain-colt / Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0 | 21) TÁOWÙ (Counterintelligence) Nanopulser(+2B), Flash Pulse(+1B) / Viral Pistol(+1B), Monofilament CC Weapon. (0 | 25) 2.5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army
Again not a high chance to get another Su Jian that consist of two figures ... except they go siocast. I doubt that the Su Jian gets a new sculpt very soon and TBH - I don´t need one. Hsien MMR would be a nearly certain candidate. Has newer weapon laodout and a fancy HI is always a eye catcher. Crane Hacker - Hacker and Snipers are good candidates I think we will see one, agian a good source for an sword swinging coder. Pheasant. No, we will not see two hackers in the same box. At the other hand, its the only combi armed loadout right now and BSG and RF have both a new sculpt. So I think no Pheasant for now. Instead add a new unit here. I personaly hope for a biker. Yu Jing is the only main faction without a bike. Baos. I would like the opportunity to put them in a army box rather than a own box set of 3 or 4. Snipers are always favoured sculpts of CB and its also the opportunity to get a new loadout or two. They deserv a higher burst weapon or at least a XMMR. Zhanying. We have two combis already! BSG and HMG are missing. So HMG is the thing here. Taowu. Nope. No repacks in new army packs and for an alternate sculpt he is not old enough (in terms of the time he serves as an infinity model). So new unit #2 here. Something in the 20s. I recoment a uplevel CG maybe with NCO. An army pack normaly has three basic troops, but I realy hope there will not be any new CG as the "old" ones are in good shape and we had a long (too long) wait for the SWC box back then. And mine is not even painted yet.
ISS in particular could *really* use a fast Specialist. They're tough to crack with their cheap and resilient convict defenders and they can strike fast and hard with the Su Jian and new MBH, but I'm antsy about getting into them for an upcoming slow-grow because Kanren and a single Ninja aren't really a hardy midfield presence. Something that could run out, grab an objective and return to the defensive lines without massive order expenditure would be just the ticket.
Agreed. There sort of is with Sophie. But it's worse than all eggs in one basket. I don't mind them not having that great of mid field troops but they still need something.
1. All Kanren should have access to deployables. I think that's one thing holding them back that you habe to choose either the specialist or the deployables. 2. Kanren should get a bump up of their MA skills or a price discount. 3. Holomask and holoechoes is a skill that is hard to use. Holomask on the single forward deploying trooper is even weirder. So I I want to confuse my opponent I can deploy highly valuable midfieldtrooper in my deployment zone...(we can uns taowu now) give us another holomask option with a focus on ranges combat to complement the kanren maybe? Imperial Service isn't supposed to have camo so maybe a trooper with mimetism, sensor to sniff infiltrators out. If that new trooper is a specialist as well it will help with one of the weaknesses of ISS. And either the crane needs a hefty priced drop to make him viable or he could gain something. Breaker spitfires were mentioned a few times in the forum. Or some profile Mods an his CC. Or a better dodge. Maybe, maybe give the crane hacker a HD+. Not likely, but one can dream.
Kanren are too squishy. And their holo don´t work out pretty well. If you use it with three Kanren, then everybody know already what it is. If you use it to disguse the presence of the Kanren, then you forgo its FD skill. So yes I agree to #1 but I don´t think they will get it. At #2 because I never understand why Kanren have Mono I would also get rid of the mono and take a E/M CCW paired with a Para -6. Fluffwise they are like a lone lawkeeper and are able to supress some uprising, not tooled up to kill outright. I want to see some O-12 tools on them. Riotstopper instead of Chaincolts. Oh and a better PH or a Dodge skill. #3 Holomask can go - its not useful on Kanren. Totaly agree here. Price drop AND move to 6-2.
Crane needs about a 10 point price drop to be okay. I know comparing it to the Asawira is a fool's errand, because the Asawira is absolutely cracked, but at a 10 point discount the Crane would still be worse, which should be totally reasonable.
It's actually very useful for disguising which Kanren profile the unit is. While the Deployables give away some profiles, there's a lot of value in a midfield unit that can be a Hacker, a Killer Hacker or unhackable right up to the point that you can get some Hacking Area on it.
