There is a difference between when deployed and the deployment phase. However, Parachutist/Combat Jump is clearly a deployment skill and states that you're deploying when you use the skill. With Hidden Deployment, you're clearly considered deployed during the Deployment phase, not when you reveal yourself.
I think the best solution is: CB makes two Profiles of the Ayyar (or better modifiy them). Ayyar blabla Hidden Deployment with NO holoprojector Ayyar blabla FD+8" AND holoprojector Finish. No crazy interpretable rule conflicts. I just wish they would think about this before doing the upgrades. Apart from this there should be a statement, that deploy only refers to the deployment at the setup of the game and nothing will be deployed while the game is already running. Here troopers like CJ/Parchutist/HD are put on the table. Finish
Or they can write a single line of text on the forum on how it works, and we can have a new and interesting profile.
so in the deployment phase we would have the main deployment, then the reserve trooper, and finally the Airdrop deployment phase ? Or you'd have the Airdrop as part of main deployment like Netrod ? edit - ah you mean, a line that CJ is not a "deployment" since it is happening in the game phase it is only "placing a model with his own order"
Yes. But they usualy don´t do that. Remember the beginning of N4 while CB discovered that is was not a good idea to give repeaters to markers (Moran, Lu Duan)? Moran got two profile sets and Lu Duan got DepRep. Yep
Let's agree it's new territory Everyone has a point... For me it FWD+4 n Bears until it has a ruling... @Koni @HellLois @ijw Could end this in 1 post... And it would give me the tools I need to give my Opponent a fair game with a solid ruling If I did play it, it would be place all 3 Note the Real... I got 2 Ayyars waiting to be played
IGL has released a ruling on this for its tournaments. I think it takes a good approach that addresses the issue, so I'm copying it here. Writing credit to @HeadChime I think: There is no official ruling from Corvus Belli. At IGL we suggest deploying the real Ayyar and its two Holoechoes in Hidden Deployment together, noting all of their positions. All of them will appear simultaneously when you reveal. Holoprojector isn't clear when it activates. The rules for Holoprojector say it activates when deployed and placed on the table: The Holoecho State says it activates when deployed: Both rules mention the need for deployment, and Hidden Deployment is a type of deployment, so it meets the criteria for activating Holoechoes: In terms of the requirement to be placed on the table, under the rules for Holoprojector, we're going to choose to interpret that as Corvus Belli assuming, incorrectly, that all models are placed on the table when deployed. This is usually true, but of course Hidden Deployment models are not placed when deployed. Therefore we would consider that phrase an unnecessary addition, to be ignored for the purposes of the skill. The important part is Deployment, not being placed on the table.
