ISS Fireteam Changes

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  1. Knauf

    Knauf Transhumanist

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    The update has dropped and we've got several new toys to play with.

    - Two Haris teams
    - Dakini + Devas in CG core
    - Su Jian + MBH Duo
    - Zhanying can form pure core links with WU Ming
    - A whole lot of Duo/Haris teams across 9 units

    I'll have to check this in detail later (and how this compares to other sectorials), but my first impression is really good.

    What do you think?
     
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  2. Fed4ykin

    Fed4ykin Well-Known Member

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    My only grain of salt so far is that the hsien doesn't grant the consistency bonus in a law and order link. But I guess bao will be actually played now. Taowu should be wildcard. But at least he is linkable now. I there is a lot to learn and play around with.
     
  3. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Any idea when they are coming out with the list for all?

    In Army Zhanshi are now AVA 5 in IA and WB, Jujak are still AVA4 (dumb). Shaolin are at AVA5, were they higher before? I'm getting old. :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

    Wait, was Chung Hee Jong is in White Banner now.

    I'm not seeing Bao in there at all. :sob:

    But Garuda is!? WTH?
     
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  4. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Everything is up in Army Desktop, there's a new Fireteam Chart button at the top of your list.

    Mobile is awaiting an update, clicking the charts button (same one for MA/Biity/Metachem) shows the Fireteams but not consistency rules or how many are allowed
     
  5. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Lots of good, but on the other hand the wildcards got slightly worse with Xi + MAdil being a CG and the Cranes breaking consistency. I don't think ISS wants to use Cores for anything that wants the consistency bonus outside of Wu Ming all that much.
     
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  6. Fed4ykin

    Fed4ykin Well-Known Member

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    The Garudas in the document became bao in the app. You find the rules where MA, booty and meta chemistry is located in the app. But the traits from the document are missing... So no idea about consistency really.
    Invincible zoyong links get a rui shi now nice!
     
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  7. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Ah got it! I was looking for an icon instead of words right in front of me lol.
     
  8. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    So now Jujak can make a core but only 5-man if with Kwon. Still with Shang Ji and has full bonus, or a Ye Mao and be mixed! That's cool.

    Things I'm liking:
    WB
    Shaolin Haris!
    Qo is wildcard and counts as Shaolin
    Jujak Haris

    ISS
    MBH+Su Jian Duo
    A mixed Bao team could be great. +3 Disc for Bao still. They can only Haris anyway. 2 CSU or 2 ABH + Bao Sniper!
    Dakini haris without a Deva. But Deva is still good and counts as Dakini.

    IA
    Mech ENG joining Zhanshi
    Rui Shi with Shang Ji or Zuyong! But mixed :slightly_frowning_face: Still nice.
    Guijia+Mowang Duo

    interesting that a Pheasant can join an Aleph team. Fluff reason?
     
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  9. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    To make sure Aleph doesn't see too much!
     
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  10. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    Well, they'll lose +3 to Discover, so yeah :P
     
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  11. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Oh!!!! I didn't see 2 Haris for ISS!!!!
     
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    I like those Law Haris options. Probably the big one is the CG team, though- you can put an MSV2 Spitfire Deva with a Monitor now. Self-contained Smoke tricks are rare.
     
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  13. TenNoBushi

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    Pheasants are special advisors, so I guess they can be integrated in an ALEPH team to serve as link between Imperial Service and ALEPH forces.
     
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  14. Space Ranger

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    Vanilla is going to be interesting with all of those Duo now!

    Gujia+Kokram
    Guijia+Any Tinbot (Jujak, Shang Ji, Zuyong, Wu Ming)
    Any Tinbot (Jujak, Shang Ji, Zuyong, Wu Ming)+Pheasant Killer Hacker or Shang Ji Hacker
    Su Jian+MBH
     
  15. psychoticstorm

    psychoticstorm Aleph's rogue child
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    I am afraid not Celestial Guards and Celestial Guard monitor are two different units.
     
  16. Triumph

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    You are wrong he can do that go look at the Celestial Guard entries.
     
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  17. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Yes the CG Monitor is in two places, Celestial Guard and Kuang Shi.
     
  18. psychoticstorm

    psychoticstorm Aleph's rogue child
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    Ah good, I am wrong then.
     
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  19. Fed4ykin

    Fed4ykin Well-Known Member

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    I an a little bit sad that tao wu and respectively tian gou aren't going to generate the consistency bonus. So they will be quite obvious as holomasked when holomasked as consistent trooper.
    Also the crane should be aligable for consistency bonusses regardless of fireteam. Or they should get bs 14 I. Mean they are too expensive as is anyway.
     
  20. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    For WB, I was initially happy with the Shaolin Haris but I thought that they loose both their Irregular and Impetuous order again. But then I read that they are regular in the team! Wow!

    This is a thing!
    SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 5)
    TIAN GǑU FTO (Hacker, Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 23)
    JING QO MULTI Rifle, Chain-colt / AP + DA CC Weapon, Breaker Pistol. (0 | 36)
    0 SWC | 64 Points

    Zhanshi now can Haris in IA and WB too. That could be cool.

    Adil Crane is now in White Banner too as a Wildcard. Unfortunately turns anything into a mixed team. Still, if you don't care, he could make some cool Haris teams.

    Is this really a core now!?
    YĚ MĀO (Hacker, Hacking Device) MULTI Rifle, Chain-colt ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 31)
    YĚ MĀO Missile Launcher, Chain-colt / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 29)
    YĚ MĀO AP Spitfire / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32)
    JUJAK Breaker Combi Rifle, Heavy Flamethrower ( | TinBot: Firewall [-6]) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 30)
    JUJAK (Engineer, Deactivator) Boarding Shotgun, Panzerfaust, D-Charges ( | GizmoKit) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 30)
    3.5 SWC | 152 Points
     
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