Looking for thoughts on how to approach mindwipe with NCA. NCA isn't really spoiled for choices when it comes to this mission but so far I've got shona, a locust hacker to use the uberhacker order and a machinist with d charges. Are there any other units I should be considering for this mission?
────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 10 BOLT (Multispectral Visor L1) MULTI Sniper Rifle ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 31) BOLT (Hacker, Killer Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, E/M Mines ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 25) BULLETEER Spitfire / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (1 | 23) BIPANDRA Combi Rifle, Nanopulser ( | MediKit) / Pistol. (0 | 22) MACHINIST NCA (Bioimmunity, Veteran) Combi Rifle, D-Charges ( | GizmoKit) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 16) BLACK FRIAR FTO (Discover [+3], Albedo, Biometric Visor) MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser, Drop Bears ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 28) SHONA CARANO Submachine Gun, Nanopulser(+1B), Flash Pulse / Pistol, EXP CC Weapon. (0 | 27) BOLT Spitfire / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 27) LOCUST (Hacker, Killer Hacking Device) Breaker Combi Rifle, D-Charges ( ) / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 32) GARUDA Tacbot Spitfire / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (1.5 | 25) GROUP 2 2 MULEBOT (Hacker, EVO Hacking Device) ( ) / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0.5 | 15) DEVA (Lieutenant) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 27) DEVABOT Heavy Flamethrower / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 4) 6 SWC | 298 Points Open in Infinity Army This is a more Bolt approach ;-) The core is for the defence, it should start moving on turn two. The Shona, Bolt, Friar haris should start the fighting on turn one, whilst the Friar is for cleaning up the midfield or set some bears. Three spitfire on unique platforms with different attack angels should do the job and this is also the downside - there is no HMG. The Locust is the Über-Hacker and should go for cybermask as soon as he can. In the end - shona should do the job, Locust and Engineer are the back up.
I found that an evo hacker and a non camo/hidden swiss works well. Have the evo hacker do fairy dust HI and then send the swiss to hack it to death. Alternatively an orc hacker could do this if you want to save on points or you could kill it in cc with Shona.
As far as I know - and the three games of mindwipe - no one has managed to destroy the server with his über-Hacker. But I will not doubt, that this is entire possible. Normaly it is easier to crush the server in CC or with a D-Charge. Both Units - Swiss and Orc are at WIP 12. Both has the advantage (and disadvantage of beeing hackable) of big armor and 2 LP. Swiss also has marker state. But I think both are too expensive for that role. For marker state from the beginning I would go for a Hexa. If you´ll go for hacking competence I would choose a Deva, maybe the KHD because he can use cybermask. This is, why I take the Locust: He has good FtF protection (mime -6), okay hacking state WIP 3, BTS 3, the chance of marker state, can start the game near the console and doubles destroying potential with the D-Charge.
Sadly the uberhacker cannot be a killer hacker and cannot enter a marker state. I think the locust is the best choice because he has no marker state and can start up the board and can do the mission all on his own with hacking or d-charges and isn't in a link so he can fully utilize the extra order. Him plus shona and a machinist and a backup evo to grab the program from the locust corpse should be plenty to put down the console unless something goes horribly wrong.
Both are allowed in season 13. It still can't start in marker state, but can enter marker state and can be a KHD.
If wil have to face this mission with Neoterra I probably will do use of this list... The thing is that locust can do a lot of work not only triying to put down the "servers", but avoiding the enemy to take the target. Almost every Locust profile has D-Charges and you can put 3 of them there. Even you can take the risk and roll for "infiltration" beyond your half table. Usually people don't expect to have a wild parrot so close or a guy with mimetism-6 behind covert plus suppressive fire... You don't have a lot of profiles with D-Charges, DA or Exp, but still you have "good ones". Good Luck! Spoiler: MyList neotela ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 5 FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 7) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 7) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 7) LOCUST (Hacker, Killer Hacking Device) Breaker Combi Rifle, D-Charges ( ) / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 32) AUXILIA Combi Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 14) AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 4) GROUP 2 10 LOCUST Submachine Gun, D-Charges, WildParrot / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 25) LOCUST Submachine Gun, D-Charges, WildParrot / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 25) AUXILIA (Lieutenant) Combi Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 14) AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 4) BOLT Spitfire / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 27) QUINN Shock Marksman Rifle, Flash Pulse / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 23) BOLT (Multispectral Visor L1) MULTI Sniper Rifle ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 31) BIPANDRA Combi Rifle, Nanopulser ( | MediKit) / Pistol. (0 | 22) MACHINIST NCA (Bioimmunity, Veteran) Combi Rifle, D-Charges ( | GizmoKit) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 16) BULLETEER Spitfire / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (1 | 23) SHONA CARANO Submachine Gun, Nanopulser(+1B), Flash Pulse / Pistol, EXP CC Weapon. (0 | 27) 4.5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army
Already in ITS 12 uberhacker could be a marker, even at the start of the game. It was translation problem as Spanish version allowed for it to be either model or marker. They errated that later in English version. ITS 13 returned with the same mistake, Spanish version allowing marker state and English not. And from the beginning of ITS13 the restriction on KHD has been removed.
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Ah somehow I thought of Orc with TO ;-) So this will make the Swiss Hacker a very good candiate for the Ü-hacker. Can gain markerstate, has very good survivability, can fight on his own, can even stand against KHD - only downside is that it can not infiltrate and its very expensive ... and there is no mini for it :-(
He's very solid, considering he has stealth to bypass any zoc AROs. If you have to pick one hacker to send into the enemy and can possibly make it there it'd be him. Next down the list would be the Hexa (Wip13), then locust (wip13) and rolling down from there. I acknowledge that there are Deva Functionaries but they just don't have the combat capability like the other options. The Bolt and ORC Hackers can be linked to give some extra boost and reduce their likelihood of needing to fight their way across. The Hexa also has a marker state, The locust has Mim-6 and other stuff. But the Deva is stuck plugging away hoping that no one shoots him.
