Can you declare a speculative attack and benefit from BS attack guided?

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  1. 1337Bolshevik

    1337Bolshevik Let them eat repeaters

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    Basically does the theory in the attached image work?
     

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    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Still not sure that's enough to make Muls good :stuck_out_tongue:
     
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    wuji Well-Known Member

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    Cool

    Also, what's the name of the painting in your pfp
     
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    QueensGambit Chickenbot herder

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    I don't think (Guided) is a MOD. It doesn't modify a normal BS Attack, rather it allows you to perform a different kind of BS Attack.

    If it was a MOD which applied to all the owning trooper's BS Attacks, then a missile bot could never take a normal shot with LoF at a unit that wasn't Targeted, because its BS Attack would be MODded to only work against troopers in the Targeted state.

    Consequently, I don't think that Speculative Attack is affected by a trooper having the BS Attack (Guided) skill, just as a normal BS Attack isn't affected by the trooper having the BS Attack (Guided) skill.
     
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    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    I think the reasoning is sound. BS Attack (Guided) is written as a modifier to BS Attack and even if that comes with a bunch of extra rules, like Immunity does, you are still declaring the actual skill "BS Attack" as opposed to performing a BS Attack that is a component of a different skill.

    I mean... the net effect isn't all that huge.
    Regular Guided: Short skill at flat BS value centred on the target. Able to use any of the BS weapons from panoplies.
    Speculative Guided: Entire Order skill at flat BS value off-centre on the target. Unable to use any of the BS weapons from panoplies.
     
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