Many people fitting her in a list? How do you find her? How are you building lists with her? As a side note How many characters have you managed to fit in a list while still being effective? Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
i play her in haris with a bolt specialist and Massacre. I'm still looking for the right balance between the different characters (static core + haris + chimera or static core + zero + chimera)
Do you not find massacre and valkyrie step on each others toes a bit with them both being close combat focused? Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
T That is interesting, I just realized that Massacre, for a few more points than a Bolt, brings VERY important Eclipse Grenades. Plus a Paramedic Bolt, and the chance of ganging up, either Valkyrie or Massacre are a very serious close quarters threat for 85 points and no SWC.
Mr. Deadpool can also bring a breaker combi which can be good for breaking hard targets without getting to DTW range
And Valkyrie a MULTI. There are two combinations possible then, BSG + MULTI or Brk Combi + HSG. I still like the combo... if you can anchor with a different fireteam and another midfield specialist like a Zero... I think the problem is... is it more efficient as a CQC threat than a 20pts Uberfall? Not really.
in a list with Chimera and Massacre she is not strictly necessary but total immunity, berserk and exp cc weapon bring significant offensive and defensive options
I use her as a CC threat to bodyguard my ORC fireteam. Once I had her walk across the board to CC Joan on the other side, but most of the time she just acts as an 16 inch bubble of 'don't come over here or I'll **** you up"
I suppose that half of why I struggle to include her I just cant see past having uberfall and then usually have massacre in my main fire team.of orc/bolts to protect them from close range threats in the first turn then with moving up the board Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
All valid options. Although for a CC bodyguard she is quite expensive, Massacre can do just as well and is cheaper.
The thing is the combination of Berserk+Total Immunity+NWI pretty much ensures whatever Valk touches she can just berserk and kill it without fearing the consequences. It's way too much of a threat to face, and in N4 there are no bodies to throw haphazardly at a model. That does edge her over massacre. Although Massacre having eclipse gives him a different function.
Different functions, and still an opposing CC attack can crit her outright making it a very expensive trade. My point was more along the lines of Massacre having Eclipse to allow Valk and friends to close the gap. BUT uberfall exists as well...
Yeh she is a great piece but in for Co with how expensive most pieces are and her cost being high the cheaper massacre and uberfalls just seem to fit better Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
Uberfall doesn't drag along a specialist, doesn't provide Regular orders, doesn't have a Burst 4 Breaker Rifle, Burst 3 Heavy Shotgun, or BS13 Combi+Lsg with Marksmanship. If all you want is CC and Eclipse then the Uberfall is better, but the Haris can do a lot more.
Yeh man suppose depends what you're fighting, the mission and how you plan yo use them all Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk