[April], come she will...

Discussion in 'News' started by Solar, Feb 14, 2018.

  1. stargorger

    stargorger Well-Known Member

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    Am I the only one who, with JSA gone, is kind of hopeful that they'll start adding Korean and Mongolian troops in to Yu Jing? :D
     
  2. Teslarod

    Teslarod when in doubt, Yeet

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    I'd like to buy a suggestion for a fix.

    Otherwise you might wanna ask the Tohaa guys about some advicee how to be really upset about something that isn't gonna change for quite a while (and then will magically be fixed once it is your turn on the schedule).

    For the record we do pretend Cranes don't exist and Wu Ming can't build a mixed Link in ISS, yes? Buying 4 HI to link them with a 18 points Remote is truly the envy of the entire Human Sphere.
     
  3. Aldo

    Aldo Spare 15

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    One would hope so. But I doubt it will happen anytime soon, Invincible is probably going to be eminently chinese (as it should, tbh). Hopefully involving heroism and the Party and all the reasons it is good to live in Yu jing. As opposed to all the reasons it isn't good to live in Yu Jing , which is what our current sectorials are about. Sectorials which will become Sectorial in about a month.
     
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  4. the huanglong

    the huanglong Well-Known Member

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    Any other assumptions mate?
     
  5. Teslarod

    Teslarod when in doubt, Yeet

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    No not at all, you have all the reasons in the world to lament your unfortunate fate until nothing changes and it gets fixed (or a nice baindaid that does fuck all to solve the problem but is nontheless nice) on schedule anyway.


    Just pick a better reason to be offended about. I'm sure you'll come up with something more amusing or relateable. Otherwise you might get lumped in with some of the more unreasonable people and you're better than that mate.

    Pretty sure the game dies the day every problem gets fixed with Sukeuls and Kriza Boraks. Or worse - turns into "40k the Skirmisher". I do prefer CB getting ahead of themselves to keep powercreep in check instead of raising the bar for everyone after a screwup.
     
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  6. the huanglong

    the huanglong Well-Known Member

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    OK I will phrase my upset constructively.

    Dear CB, now that you have given your pet Japanese factions access to Wu Ming, can you please inflate them by releasing a model for the MULTI Rifle plus LGL profile.
     
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  7. Aldo

    Aldo Spare 15

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    Okay.

    CB, what is love*?

    And what is Nimbus for**?

    And, additionally, what purpose does Religious Troop on Shaolin serve***?

    *relatable1
    **Relatable 2 + amusing1 + I actually know some niche uses but still, may as well ask why they made two ammunition types exclusively for two niche uses.
    ***amusing2
     
  8. Spleen

    Spleen Well-Known Member

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    I'm still not convinced they are core linkable, they definitely can only Haris with brawlers, might only be the Haris the Clipper goes into as well.

    Would really be nice of CB to release formal listings of all these special links for us to digest.
     
  9. the huanglong

    the huanglong Well-Known Member

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    I would like to see the list too. AVA 5 is a big number though.
     
  10. Monkeysloth

    Monkeysloth Well-Known Member

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    Well on the plus for all the YJ players, was just reading the fluff for the Daiyokai (Hat Tag*) and apparently the Japanese had to leave a super high-tech armor behind when they left the planet and the Hat Tag is them making an inferior version with limited resources so there's probably going to be something crazy coming YJ's way.

    *Yes, I know it's not a Tag but I'm annoyed the hat isn't a separate piece.
     
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  11. Monkeysloth

    Monkeysloth Well-Known Member

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    We're getting some info tomorrow in a BoW video. Generally Carlos gives a break down of link teams.
     
  12. Spleen

    Spleen Well-Known Member

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    AVA 5 is why I doubt it.

    If they really can core link with a Clipper but not any other way, that would be just too damn weird.

    "Oh no, our missile robot died and he was the link leader at the time, guess we can't reform and operate as a cohesive unit anymore guys, sorry we just don't get along well without a robot around"
     
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  13. the huanglong

    the huanglong Well-Known Member

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    If there is a pure wu ming haris option I want it for IS too.
     
  14. stargorger

    stargorger Well-Known Member

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    Oh i prefer "oh no, only my 3 clippers are left! ITS A REMOTE LINKKKKKK" ;)
     
  15. Leviathan

    Leviathan Hungry Caliban

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    But clearly, if Wu Ming are allowed to form fireteams without the oversight of imperial agents, they run off and join terrorist mercenary companies.
     
  16. the huanglong

    the huanglong Well-Known Member

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    Wu Ming already have fireteam core in Imperial Service, the Zhanying is an option not a requirement. Compare the wording to Kuang shi, who do not have this skill but can form a core in the presence of a Celestial guard controller.
     
  17. Leviathan

    Leviathan Hungry Caliban

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    Actually what this really does is point to Wu Ming getting bonus profiles, since none of them currently have a Haris option.

    This further points to the possibility of other units getting bonus profiles.
     
  18. n-sphere

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    I bet the Ryuken rocket launcher has albedo. The Raiden rocket launcher always seemed like the Raiden was a bit too generally good for what you paid for it. Plus regular camo didn't really fit the theme. The role of the Raiden in JSA always seemed like it was supposed to make a single glorious attempt at putting a chink in their defenses to allow your assault army to go all in for a decisive battle. In reality they were often even better at being a really cheap ARO roadblock. An albedo rocket launcher will let JSA have a solid tool to go after a defensive MSV2 that would shut their smoke assault down hard, while taking a lot of the rocket Raiden's roadblock ability away.

    I hope Kuroshi Rider plays like Asuka. The Asuka sculpt didn't really visually fit in with the Aragoto too well, so hopefully this is just a re-theme. Although while the new one fits the Aragoto visuals better, I think they are going too far with the cameos. It is starting to not feel like its own distinct IP. Yes it is heavily inspired by popular culture, but the cultures in the IP ARE our cultures in a fictional future. The inspiration felt like it came naturally from the popular culture inspiring us now. Something as on the nose as Kuroshi Rider being Celty feels like something someone from Bakunin would do, not JSA.

    I hope Haramaki are not gone. Haramaki were not remotely like Domaru. Those monster link-Blitzen shots are a big fucking deal in practice, since they usually hit something trying to deal with the Haramaki in the face and end that order chain cold in its tracks.

    I kinda hope the Daiyokai lacks a ranged weapon, or maybe just smoke grenades, but is cheap and has assault and MSV2.

    I wonder if they nerfed the MSV2 on the Rui Shi. To be honest, JSA isn't supposed to be smoke machine gun tricks, and the Rui Shi is REALLY good at them. Being able to MOV 6 and ignore cover through a cloud is oppressive when you've got Keisotsu orders filling its pool.

    I'm wondering if they will rework Shinobu's rules. She really doesn't stack up terribly very well up against Saito since he doesn't really give up anything that matters to be 8 points cheaper. If JSA gets the specialist operative profile of him, she would never get taken. I think their profiles are just too close. Hopefully they just make her into something totally new. Especially since I think it is now totally legal to just use Shinobu's model as a proxy for Saito and her profile mattering to vanilla YJ because they can't take Saito. I'd kinda like a re-sculpt of Shinobu too, just to see what they could do.
     
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  19. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member

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    Ideally, this is something that should have been in on day one to help make the faction feel more complete. Unfortunately, CB made the decision to focus in on only two cultures with the initial releases which make the faction feel a lot more culturally sparse than say PanO (where even if the inclusions were one-offs, things like the Bagh Mari, Akalis and Croc Man helped flavour things initially).

    This had the other effect of making the whole JSA Underclass vs. Yu Jing Overlord thing a much larger conflict in the background than it likely would have been if the various nations had been given good initial representation. Over time this conflict has kind of overtaken the faction in ways that went toward the whole evil Yu Jing flanderization we have today.

    The silver lining is that finally getting the JSA out of things allows for (potentially) more unit diversity in Yu Jing. The downside is that this may not necessarily come quickly, and that will leave us with a gaping hole for a good long time. Since this isn't happening on the cusp of a new addition, it puts us behind the other major factions for the time being in terms of existing profiles, filled roles, and even sectorials.

    Now, Invincible Army is hopefully the next sectorial to drop (just so Yu Jing can get back up to par), but even that is still months away and may not solve the issue. After that, as new sectorials start dropping for existing factions, we'll start falling behind again until White Banner drops (but I expect that is still two years off unless CB are really putting their money where their mouth is about stepped up release schedule).

    So the upshot is hopefully Yu Jing going forward better exemplifies the constituent nations it is made up of instead of focusing on a boring, played out culture war. It's just going to be painful to transition with us losing a third of our profiles, a bunch of unique roles, and a big chunk of our identity with no replacements in sight yet.

    Hopefully CB have a plan to rectify this quickly, but I'm still tempering my expectations because CB and quickly aren't two terms I usually put together. :stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  20. Leviathan

    Leviathan Hungry Caliban

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    ........why am i suddenly imagining new mongolian biker units with SMGs and LGLs, named after Keshiks?
     
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