Hi all, I was watching a Batrep the other day and noticed them playing a rule one way, but I had always been interpreting the rules another. Just dropping in here for some clarity on which is the correct way I should be playing: The scenario: Model A and Model B are standing near each other and Model A activates to see Enemy Model C from cover (Model B is still out of LOS of C) Model C Declares an ARO with a Heavy Rocket Launcher in Template Mode Model A Fires at Model C with a Feurbach Model B (In template Range) can do nothing, as it is the active players turn, so can't even dodge However, Model A rolls a successful hit on an 11 Whilst model C rolls a "Successful hit" on a 9, which is then canceled by model A's 11 Does Model B still need to make an armour save? Or is the entire template cancelled? I've always played it that the entire template is cancelled, but in the batrep they say the template is placed before the results and as long as C succeeded, it still hits model B (even though its canceled Vs Model A) To defend my interpretation, I can find that page 50 "The Circular Template only applies its effect on each affected Trooper if the Normal or Face to Face Roll is successful." Which technically it was... but it was then cancelled... so the wording is a little unclear... I suppose all I'm asking is, is a cancelled success still a success rules wise? I get the impression it isnt.. as on page 30 they give this exception when dodging or resetting vs an attack "dodging an Attack with several targets only cancels the attack against the Trooper who dodged, and does not cancel the attack against the rest of the targets." Which IMPLIES that a Face to Face shot would potentially cancel it against other targets, but its never explicitly said anywhere.. As always, thanks for any thoughts and replies Just trying to make sure I get the rules right when I play
2nd bullet point of the effects of Impact Template Weapons: The Trooper who declared the Attack compares this Roll against each enemy Trooper affected by the Template individually. Each enemy Trooper affected by the template resolves their Face to Face Roll completely independently of each other. The Face to Face Roll of one affected enemy Trooper cannot affect the Face to Face Rolls of the others (emphasis mine) So whether you success is cancelled or not against one target cannot affect whether or not it is cancelled against another, think of it as multiple, separate attacks that all happen to have the same dice result, rather than one attack that hits multiple targets.
Note that under N4 rules, Model B may declare a Dodge ARO even without being granted a LoF/ZoC ARO due to being affected by a template, but at -3 due to dodging a template without LoF to the attacker.
No they can't Model B is an active model and you can't declare AROs in your active turn. Or at least I'm fairly certain you can't. *checks* Nope, CB didn't accidentally allow active troopers to ARO. We're good.
