Valid reasoning = judges an army released not even a week ago 'cause he doesn't like it, but hasn't seen any final model of it Stop acting so negative :)
Merovingia was officially discontinued as of August 2018. Here's the article on the subject. Previous to that, Merovingian specific releases were basically nonexistent after Campaign Paradiso. The faction received a send-off in the form of (finally!) the Chasseur model...which really only happened because they discontinued the old Vanilla Ariadna starter which had one present. Try reading. I hear it's fundamental!
Still babbling about MRRF while I'm clearly pointing out that you called Kosmoflot a fail. Try understanding the test, would be better for your future conversations.
That is the post you replied to. You didn't "point out" anything. You just made some snarky lil' remark about "the salt". Try better to English in the future, twat. Also, I'm pretty sure you meant "text" not "test".
My bad, I should have circled only the word "Kosmofail" to help you bro. Btw, thanks for the kind words. You showed again that you're effectively stupid enough to judge an army without anything to base your opinion on, exactly as you're stupid enough to offend someone on a toys' forum :)
Or you should learn how to properly respond to a post before trying to sling insults, based upon a week old post that was on the first page of a three page thread. Bro. Awwww, did your poor feelings get hurt? Maybe next time don't come out swinging at someone with some snarky remark? If you had wanted to start off a conversation with "I don't think Kosmoflot will be a failure"? Or if you had bothered to read beyond the first page, you might have actually seen that my issues with the concept stem from it being an unnecessary retcon of an existing concept to shove out an established key factor(that of Merovingia...which, again, has had zero movement for years on anything outside of Kosmoflot that literally just got announced) to instead shoehorn in a basically non-factor(TAK) as the star of the show. Hell, we might have even gotten to have a conversation about something. But no. You chose, instead, to start shit and are now just doubling down. So please. Enlighten me as to where I "judged an army"? Was it the oh so witty nomenclature of "Kosmofail"? Was it where I've said that Merovingia would have been a better focus? I don't care if the army, by the by, is good or not. What I do care about is that it's yet another example of Corvus Belli's inability to follow through on things.
Kanluwen, I'm still waiting on my copy of N4 to catch up on the lore changes; but from what I can see - the Kosmoflot is the logical extension on the AEC concept. AEC Wave 1: MRRF and TAK troops - gets mulched in the fighting at Almselburg salient (Third Offensive pg 99) MRRF also gets more than decimated by the Onyx Force in De Hell Missions. AEC Wave 2: more MRRF, Caledonians, TAK - also mentioned in Third Offensive. As a couple of years have passed "in universe" - there is a VERY good chance that the AEC got renamed "Kosmoflot" simply because o-12 and Rodina may have changed them from being an "Expeditionary Force" on Paradiso fighting the CA there into a standing organization for fighting offworld; using the survivors of the AEC. As you have mentioned - looking at the makeup of the force - Caledonians, SOME surviving elite MRRF units, Some additional forces from across Ariadna and new units. It looks a LOT like an updated AEC, only with more troops from the largest armed force on Ariadna. I'm just saying - I don't mind the concept overmuch...
So then what's the point of changing the name from the AEC? It's not like they needed to change it for any reason. There wasn't a sectorial already. Additionally, the De Hell nonsense is moot at this point. Merovingia either would have rebuilt its forces enough to meaningfully contribute (if that were the case they wanted to go with), or USAriadnan forces could have been swapped in to take their place with Merovingia rotating their forces to the USAriadnan border(the 'lore' reason why USAriadnan forces weren't involved with the initial AEC for Paradiso/3O) to ease up pressure from the Antipodes. The 'elite MRRF units' bit is them building the list based upon their ridiciulous 15 model cap they introduced, with the lore to back it up.
To which I say: "What's in a name?" Does it REALLY matter if it is the Ariadna Expeditionary Force - or if - in universe - they made it from a temporary organization to a permanent one with the name of Kosmoflot? Historically - I honestly can't tell you HOW many armies went from temporary designations to different permanent ones when their roles changed. The AEC probably turned into Kosmoflot. Just like the Japanese Sectorial Army turned into the Japanese Secessionist Army. Just like Tohaa faction turned into Spiral Corps mercenaries... Lore wise - there is literally no reason NOT to change the name... (and in real life - there IS a reason not to use AEC. That's the name of another game company... so yeah, chaging the name has a business reason, and a possible fluff explanation.)
Kosmoflot springs from a different source than the AEC, though. A recognition by STAVKA that they needed something to exercise control and project force in the Helios system.
Historically, those 'temporary designations' are usually for ad hoc forces that then get made permanent. The AEC didn't fall under that category. Part of the lore for them established that from the outset. And yeah, it really does matter. Because one of those names("Kosmoflot") is invented out of thin air to try to justify a 'new' concept that already existed. PS: The Tohaa faction didn't "turn into Spiral Corps mercenaries". They're two different things. Also, PS: That's not how these kinds of things would work if it were 'a business reason'. Nobody is confusing "Ariadnan Expeditionary Corps" with "Alderac Entertainment Group". Nor are there really reasons to pander to a defunct YouTube channel that's been squatting since 2015.
Or like how the British Expeditionary force was absorbed and reorganised into the home forces after Dunkirk.
That is actually an excellent point. Especially since my Starmada box came with a flyer advertising a different miniatures game called "Starmada" and thanks on the back side of the flyer to the company who makes that game, for allowing CB to use the trademark with the faction. They probably wanted to avoid the same thing with AEC who wouldn't let go of using a company name as easily as another game maker would that of a niche game for some free advertisement.
Real-talk: Go look up "AEC" online. There's a ton of different companies using it in different contexts. It's an acronym that is apparently pretty common--to the point that a US government entity uses it. I very much doubt that's why AEC isn't being used--especially since both of those things were done at the same time. "Starmada" isn't a real word, nor is it an acronym for anything. It's a made up bit that's just a combination of "Star" and "Armada".
And there you go - you yourself just found valid business reasons NOT to use AEC. "AEC" has no real capability for trademark - BECAUSE of a wide usage in a variety of ways - including the gaming arena. Defending it as a trademark could be difficult. "Kosmoflot" is unique enough that it is a trademarkable term in this usage. ~~~~~ Again - i don't see the problem.
And the name “Kosmoflot” fits better with its role, to protect Ariadna’s in-system assets and project force. And, at the end of the day, Kosmoflot fits better with where CB wants the game to go, so...
Except "AEC" wouldn't be the 'trademark'. Just like CJC, CJB, CJT, MRRF, TAK, USARF, CHA, SWF, etc aren't the 'trademarks'. Those are acronyms. The 'trademark' would be "Ariadnan Expeditionary Corps". "Kosmoflot" remains to be seen as anything but "it's new, we promise!". And for that, people have to wait for the book...which means that only the real die-hards will know it and quote it.
