Specifically looking at the shotgun/combi Domaru at 28pts compared to an Code1/N4 shitkicker Zuyong the Domaru are packing 6-2 movement Martial Arts 3 CC attack Shock Fatality 1 Berserk (whatever the fuck +3 does on this) Courage Kinematica 2 instead of 1 Stealth E/M Grenades E/M CCW +7 CC stat +2 PH stat They get all that in exchange for the Zuyong having +1 BS stat Pistol +1B (assuming it's a breaker pistol in N4) That is a fuckload of stuff on that 28pt Domaru and I'm assuming they were given their Fireteam Duo/Haris for free. I honestly think we have a real shot at a 20 or under Zuyong here. If we're paying more than 20pts for a Combi Zuyong I think we can pretty safely say we're getting ripped off.
Berserk +3 probably means they get +3 to CC when using Berserk. No sign of frenzy is interesting. Now, prior to N4 I would estimate the Domaru's CC stuff at around 8 pts, but I think that's lower now. We'll see...
Ah yes YJ resident saltminer. Did you see Tanko yet btw? You see that correctly. Domaru get good CC, but "only" E/M CCWs, Berserk +3 is N3 Berserk but with a +3 instead of a +6. So that's a nerf. Wow scandalous. Looks like CB finally got the memo that CC is pretty shit if you can't get there and fixed that. Cool. No Frenzy is a very good catch considering it's only 28 with a Combirifle somehow. These look super squishy tbh, assuming you have even one Domaru Chainrifle in there they're gonna drop like flies.
I think it's lower now too, but I feel like they're probably paying at least something significant for the desirable 6-2 upgrade on the MOV stat.
CB seem to look at the combined MOV value for pricing. Considering Jujak seems to be the cheap HI going forward, I'm hoping for some combat buffs on Zuyong
Look again. CC Attack (Shock) So it's a Shock+E/M at Damage 16. How the hell do these guys get a +1 Order Lt.? Stealth? Well I guess they are not Frenzy anymore so it's not like they are yelling at the enemy as the close in anymore.
I mean I hope they don't, there's no situation where frontloaded MOV isn't superior to an even distribution of the same distance. That'd be pretty moronic if they do that.
20 Pts for the Chain loadout seems dirt cheap. Maybe the Chain Rifle gives a minus? Now that denestling the rules is a thing, I wish they take stealth from the HI. Maybe 200 years in the future humans are able to build HI suits that are not noisy but the also have to be invisible for hacking so stealth on a line troop HI thats made for fast movement looks not fluffy to me. Maybe only in some very special cases, Shikami for example.
It shouldn't give a minus that'd be fucking stupid if their formula works that way. Next thing you know they'll be cheating the system by putting EXTRA guns on everything by adding chain rifles to stuff just to bring down the cost.
Maybe if its the only "range" weapon ... still curious why the end up with 20 pts. 6 pts less then N3.
Shit stats got cheaper, they had shock weapons pulled off their profile, they lost Dual Wield as a rule
They have CC Attack (Shock) now in the header so it works like DW in N3. Their Stats are the same except CC and Move. And they get BS Attack (DAM+1) on Top ;-)
Well Bostria said something about JSA being one of the most popular armies, and Japanese fanboys being strong in infinity. And that's the answer, fan service. Considering how much of the player base is a bunch of edgy nerds no wonder why they fan service nomads also.
Given that in general HI are going cheaper i wont be surprised if Zuyongs get a 5 point discount as well, although what i would really like is a streamline of profiles, there just are too many filler options in there that i dont see people using at all. We´ll have to wait and see the official n4 profile, wont be long now.
And here we can observe the yu Jing player set up their unrealistic expectations. A sort of ritual prior to each release to allow them to amplify their negative emotional state. It's looking like probably a 4-5 point discount, putting them around low 20s and the swc weapons in low 30s. Maybe another minor skill or stat buff.
