The Crooked Grin Of Corregidor: Tactica

Tema en 'Nomads' iniciado por GHoooSTS, 9 Feb 2018.

  1. Spitfire_TheCat

    Spitfire_TheCat Feel the Wrath of the Miezi-Bot

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    They had their niche. It was the one of the cheap BS13-Trooper. They only needed 4-4 movement and either a small buff or a small points reduction.

    Now they are going the Grenzer Route. They will get the "count as"-treatment and be integrated in Alguacils-Links. The Spitfire and HRL will be used and buffed by three 10-points-Alguacils-Dudes. Booooring!

    There are so many things that could have been added to Wildcats, why did they have to become a Grenzer-clone? How about Mimetism? Or an X-Visor? Anything that Nomads did not already have. Yes, now every sectorial can build their MSV1-Link. Great ...
     
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    herod1204 Knight of Santiago

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    Ta da![​IMG]

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  3. herod1204

    herod1204 Knight of Santiago

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    Or not. God damn, I don't know why the files are blurring

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  4. Pirayak

    Pirayak Member

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    Wehre is the alguacil combo written down? I.havent realiced it yet. I like the new Profile, i Hope for a Wildcatspitfire, Lupe and Jazzmin or Wildcats Killer-/Hacker Haris, and a defensiv alguacil core in the backline, Powered up with a missle Launsher and A feuerbach Remote :)

    I dont see a Second Grenzer Profile... Cant understand so Many People are hating them still before seeing the whole armylist...
     
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    Spitfire_TheCat Feel the Wrath of the Miezi-Bot

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    The Link options aren't published yet. It was just an assumption from my side while being frustrated that Wildcats became Grenzer variants.

    Actually in N3 I used Wildcats way more often than Grenzers. Yes, even full Cores. With success. They worked in Corregidor. Slow Movement wasn't nice, but not that much of a hindrance.

    But obviously, instead of making Wildcats work with changing them to 4-4 and maybe scrapping of a point or 2 and having to take 5 Wildcats to form a core, to me it seems they go the route of the Grenzer. A full Grenzer-Core is something not played often, I bet. Instead they are mixed into Securitate Links to get some better shooting. With the new Grenzcats costing as much as Grenzers do, I think they are going the same route. Either they get mixed into Alguaciles Links or in the new Evaders Links. Can't imagine Bridaga-Grenzcats-Links, because that would be pretty expensive.

    But none-mixed-links are not en vogue anymore. Why not go fully reta.... äh ... wildcard and make everything link with everything? Maybe later during N4 ...

    I don't like this min-maxing-fireteam-mixing.
     
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  6. Ghost87

    Ghost87 Well-Known Member

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    I would have stuck to their name and made them hyper-mobile with minimal changes to the old profiles: 4/4 is given by the global changes but let them keep the FD1 band-aid from ITS10 and maybe C+. Done. Sometimes less is more. Giving them Mimetism -3 would also be nice but may be a touch to much and would drive the costs up again.

    And please not more wildcard mish-mash. They can already take Lupe, Dak and Jazz. Each providing unique tools. That is more than enough.
     
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  7. Willen

    Willen Well-Known Member

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    The one thing that is true, is that they can bring one of each hacker, doctor and engineer up the table with a SWC gun attached and a flamethrower bodyguard. That is pretty flexible for something like Countermeasures. Plus they are Veterans. In the current meta such a Haris for Countermeasures would have been interesting, especially with the KHD option, which now is the best KHD we have (seen).
     
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    Willen Well-Known Member

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    If we don´t see an EVAder profile today... what are your expectations? Do you see any "gap" in our lineup that needs covering?

    I will be honest, we are well served. They look AD, but with Tomcats and Hellcats (and hopefully the Hellcats will get 4-4 move), I don´t see the need of another AD trooper.
     
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    Spitfire_TheCat Feel the Wrath of the Miezi-Bot

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    Before the Grenzcats-Leak? I assumed they would be 1W+NWI MI/HI to close the "gap" between Wildcats and Brigada.
    Right now? The same or ... a lower tech MI below Grenzcats, essentially new Wildcats. But they look more heavily armored than Wildcats, so I still think they are 1W+NWI.

    AD would be interesting, right, but like you already said, with Tomcats and Hellcats Corregidor is already _the_ AD-Sectorial (except for StarCo, that does this better because of Raoul).

    Although ... I wouldn't mind a 1w+NWI super-AD like the ones Haqq can bring en masse (Nahab).
     
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    Savnock Nerfherder

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    Wildcats' usefulness will be very much driven by the mission/objectives. Outside button-pushing missions I'll probably stick with the Massacre Gang. If there are buttons to push/objectives to achieve, Wildcats are the ticket.

    NCO will be super handy. Seems like I'm always an order or two short of being able to entrench in a decent position after hitting objectives; having that extra order could really help Wildcats' survivability.

    I don't see this team as an either-or with the Alguacile/Brigada core. It only really competes with the Massacre Haris.

    If they're Wildcards (like Muyibs will be), the engineer is pretty attractive to put into an Alguacile link alongside a Tsyklon. Getting Number 2 alongside repair ability is pretty nice when your offensive pieces go Unconscious with a single hit.
     
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    Willen Well-Known Member

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    That is... actually amazing. Now I am going to be dissappointed if I can´t do that!
     
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    Ghost87 Well-Known Member

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    To be honest: The ability to bring Number 2 in any fireteam just by adding a Wildcat alters the possibility of Wildcats becoming wildcards from improbable to straight impossible.
     
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    Willen Well-Known Member

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    Not quite, you are paying more than double you would pay for an Alguacile in the same spot, so why not? You are paying for it.
     
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    Hiereth AI Artichoke

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    Also just saw this given to Muyibs, assuming they don't lose #2.
     
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    loricus Satellite Druid

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    I think their profiles are too good to get wildcard.
     
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    Hachiman Taro Inverted gadfly

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    If Wildcats get Wildcard they have a few more profiles that go from bad to good. The engineer for sure.
     
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    loricus Satellite Druid

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    Wildcard would make the name "wildcats" suddenly cheesy thou.
     
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    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    As much as I appreciate herod's efforts, could someone please post a legible version of the Grenzcats profiles.

    Also, +1 to "seriously, Wildcats were fine all they need was their bloody links and SWC to be improved" opinion.
     
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  19. 1337Bolshevik

    1337Bolshevik Let them eat repeaters

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    There you go.
     

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    loricus Satellite Druid

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    I don't like posting leaks myself, even if it's open now. And yeah, but it's too late now. They got dragged closer in cost to the EVAders now as well, making it even harder to find a spot for them. The exact same profiles without the MSV1 added would have left them more unique of a unit and in a better place for the sectorial. But again it's hard to say much until we have a bigger picture of the faction.
     
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