Also no real emphasis on the corporations having displaced the government, not much tech augmentation of the body, very little transhumanity or reflection about what being human means and the internets are basically Netflix, no real "net" to talk about, no contrast between the upper rich class and a majority of poor outcasts, etc... So basically it's missing most of the "cyber" and all of the "punk". And this is not a bad thing, Infinity is about special Ops and action scifi anime tropes, it's just no cyberpunk.
Hey Infinity is dystopian, the life is wtf with lady cats and deadly as evidenced by this videos from the future that shows the augmented reality and the hacking: And the working conditions can very quickly lead you to burn out or worse to bore out: Bonus: ateks who meet a Aleph Lhost Mouahaha
Uhh, what? Almost every non-Ariadnan citizen has a neural implant and personality recording device (the Cube), they have personal pseudosentient AI assistants called Geists. Maya is so pervasive in everyday life that it eclipses the modern Internet by an order of magnitude with the average citizen being always online via Augmented Reality constantly interacting with Maya as an overlay on the real world. Not much tech augmentation of the body and transhumanism? Well apart from the whole personality recording, body swapping, custom tailored Lhosts for specific environments and tasks. "Hard" cybernetics are generally considered primitive and gauche compared to more subtle augs but Nomads and Mercs still make use of them (see: Zoe, Liang Kai, Odalisques, Yojimbo, Jazz, Arslan). Then there's the Human/Animal hybrids they call Pupniks and the uplifted Dolphin space ship pilots. Reflection on what it means to be a person? That's exactly what Outrage's central narrative is, then you've got the whole of the Steel Phalanx as created consciousnesses, and the Posthumans who've shed their original body to become digital beings. PanO's government is literally just a bunch of lobbyist groups, corporations haven't so much replaced the government as become it. Rich/poor dichotomy? Ateks, the Human Edge, Bourak, Ariadna. In large areas of the Human Sphere if you can't afford a Cube you don't even classify as a person. Then of course there's the fact the whole setting grew from a homebrewed Cyberpunk 2020 game...
Benkei, do you actually know what infinity is or did you just hobble in off the street? I'm so confused right now lol, this whole time I thought infinity had precisely all of those things and more besides, this is enough to give someone existential panic... ...does it at least have bikes, like in my favourite cyberpunk manga...? :')
I can see how Infinity isn't so much Cyberpunk itself, but it's certainly based on Cyberpunk settings/ influences. The main thing as mentioned is that we're not running the oppressed, we're all running the corporate/ government goons. We're fighting other goons, but there's no SubMundo or ATEK or Libertos sectorials. We're the powered armor oppressors here to fight other powered armor oppressors so our corporation can get the new mining tech they made for ourselves. There's certainly room for the full Cyberpunk experience in the Infinity Universe, but they're not the focus of the game we play. Maybe if they ever did a Gangs of Concillium game. :)
nomads are right there...ariadna also. It's shades of grey obviously but the game is cyberpunk as balls no matter what anyone says...
Bakunin was the main one I thought of, but it doesn't really have the same feel. Ariadna might not be as advanced as the rest of the Sphere, but they're a military culture with little cyber or punk at all. To use a different example, JSA has some definite anime elements that might work for a cyberpunk force if they weren't all rich government employees, even as their faction is fairly under-strength government wise.
I've been out of the loop for quite some time. someone tell me everything that's happened since ive been gone.
That is... quite... far from the definition and I'm very certain that it's not true, either, if you start listing things that actually has to make sense for fantasy to be worth while for you.
N4 week starts on 10th August, and presumably Preorders. Preorder miniature for N4 is Oktavia Grimsdottir, Icebreaker's Harpooner Releasing alongside N4 is the Starmada army box, new O-12 sectorial. Also available is the Shona Carano limited edition event model. End of August also sees the new Betrayal graphic novel with limited edition Ko Dali mini.
Well, normally we'd be at the biltong time of the speculation thread, but we seem to have bypassed that...
Huh, @Koni I was planning to add the limited edition Betrayal to my N4 order, will it still be available or do I need to order it before the 10th?
Well I did say, to me. To me thing that make no sense but happen anyway, is fantasy. Things that happen that shouldn't happen but plausible is fiction. Infinity is a mix. Plausible science fiction like cubes, and cybernetics. Then implausible fantasy like dog warriors.
It's sort of the Star Trek vs Star Wars thing. Star Trek gives some tech-jargon to cover their impossible stuff, while Star Wars is just like "force did it".
Thank you. That's pretty much exactly what I was looking for and seems to describe infinity much closer.
yeah i know all this - so i havent missed much. Have i atleast missed any good arguments? total dunks? pre order mini sounds like another PanO guy.
