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The Joy of Invading Savage Planets: A Guide to the Onyx Contact Force

Discussion in 'Combined Army' started by gamma ray, Nov 29, 2017.

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  1. C0MR4DE

    C0MR4DE Malfunctioning Unidron

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    Yes, but a simple well placed a. hacker could ruin your day :)
     
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  2. alchahest

    alchahest Well-Known Member

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    true, but that's the case in vanilla too. or any list for any faction with tags that aren't the avatar.
     
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  3. Leviathan

    Leviathan Hungry Caliban

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    Onyx has really good hacking now (only gonna get better with Kerr-Nau) so hacking from enemies is going to be less of a problem going forward. :)
     
  4. gregmurdock

    gregmurdock Extremely Beloved Member

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    I've got a Treason tournament coming up and we're doing missions 1, 2, and 5 so Annihilation, Safe Area, and Hunting Party. Annihilation and Safe Area I'm comfortable with. Hunting Party makes me nervous though. The adhesive launchers are on pretty expensive units, Suryats, Umbras, Malignos, and Noctifers. This is what I'm leaning towards but advice is appreciated.

    [​IMG] Onyx Contact Force
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    [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] SURYAT Lieutenant HMG + TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 45)
    [​IMG] SURYAT Vulkan Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 37)
    [​IMG] UMBRA SAMARITAN (EI Assault Hacking Device. UPGRADE: Goodnight) Plasma Carbine, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Vorpal CC Weapon. (0.5 | 43)
    [​IMG] UMBRA SAMARITAN Spitfire, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Vorpal CC Weapon. (1 | 44)
    [​IMG] UMBRA SAMARITAN Breaker Combi Rifle, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Vorpal CC Weapon. (0 | 40)
    [​IMG] NOCTIFER Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 30)
    [​IMG] IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    [​IMG] KERR-NAU (UPGRADE: White Noise) Plasma Rifle + Pitcher, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    [​IMG] Bit Hacker (UPGRADE: Expel) Submachine Gun + Pitcher, Deployable Repeater + KISS! / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] KISS! Adhesive Launcher / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    [​IMG] MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    [​IMG] SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    5.5 SWC | 323 Points

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  5. Leviathan

    Leviathan Hungry Caliban

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    For hunting party, highly recommend 2x Noctifer and 2x Malignos. ADHLs being only a single shot, you want to get the odds your favour as much as possible. Samaritans are good as well, for their mobility and being able to possibly jump around and get rear arc shots on enemies.
    Hard to have room for all three of course.
    You still need some specialists for button pushing, so minimising the danger of opponents outscoring you by limiting yourself to Dr Worm and a single Hacker (Kerr-Nau is good here for helping prevent visor problems) is also a pretty good method.

    I used something like this (but i had Kerr-Nau instead of the E-Drone - on reflection the E-Drone offers some really useful stuff).

    [​IMG] Hunting Party
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    [​IMG] UMBRA SAMARITAN Spitfire, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Vorpal CC Weapon. (1 | 44)
    [​IMG] OVERDRON 2 Heavy Rocket Launchers / . (2 | 57)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] STALDRON Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0)
    [​IMG] E-DRONE Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 28)
    [​IMG] IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    [​IMG] IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    [​IMG] MALIGNOS Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 34)
    [​IMG] MALIGNOS Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 34)
    [​IMG] NOCTIFER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 24)
    [​IMG] NOCTIFER Missile Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32)
    [​IMG] MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    [​IMG] SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    6 SWC | 300 Points
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  6. Ginrei

    Ginrei Well-Known Member

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    I was looking at Hunting Party special rules and Restricted Range is listed but i don't see what it does listed anywhere.

    EDIT: NVM found the answer
     
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  7. AngryPanda

    AngryPanda Well-Known Member

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    So now that Onyx came from "oh no Hackers, we're dead" to "Bring it on mo..fu..s!" what do you think about our Killer Hackers? In the death battle Bit vs. Kher Nau (I'm writing that wrong I just know it) I think BIT wins out in a vacuum. She has the way better repeater net, is cheaper and brings an expendable drone to run into mines or koalas.
    At least for me Kher's weaponry and D-Charges didn't make up for that, unless we're talking Highly Classified.
    But in Onyx he can also step in to fill a Unidron Link back up and get his B4 Plasma rifle with nasty BS, which is a whole different league. Also Onyx seems so SWC hungry the 0.5 can less for BIT can hurt.

    My solution so far has been to just take both but what do my fellow genocidal commanders think? Homegrown murdergoon or converted psycho wai-fu?
     
  8. Leviathan

    Leviathan Hungry Caliban

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    Kerr-Nau is the one you take for linkability with Unidrons or Rodoks, and White Noise, and he's also 0 SWC. In isolation, Bit & Kiss is better bang for buck, but Kerr-Nau has more synergy with the rest of the squad.

    Ideally though, take both.
     
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  9. Natsymir

    Natsymir Well-Known Member

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    If you're at all worried about being vulnerable to hacking with Onyx, try building your link team from this:


    [​IMG] Onyx Contact Force
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    [​IMG] UMBRA LEGATE Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Boarding Shotgun, Flash Pulse / Pistol, DA CCW. (0.5 | 43)
    [​IMG] UNIDRON K1 Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 17)

    1 SWC | 60 Points

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    The awesomesauce here is that the Umbra has Breakwater, which stacks with the Tinbot to give -9 to the opposing hacker's roll. And that on top of a link that has BTS 3 (Umbra and Nexus) or 6 (Unidrons), should any hacking still get through. Stick Kerr-Nau in there together with the Umbra for a real hacking deathstar. If you're still worried, add an E-Drone and spend an order on Kaleidoscope, too, and you'll have a downright absurdly powerful hacking link.

    And now we haven't even considered that the Nexus Hacker, who can also be in that link, has Nullifiers, which makes you downright immune to any hacking attempt...
     
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  10. Ben Kenobi

    Ben Kenobi Well-Known Member

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    You can get it much cheeper and with White Nois too:

    [​IMG] Onyx Contact Force
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    [​IMG] KERR-NAU (UPGRADE: White Noise) Plasma Rifle + Pitcher, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    [​IMG] UNIDRON K1 Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 17)

    0.5 SWC | 44 Points
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  11. nakar

    nakar New Member

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    But Kerr-Nau doesn't have access to Breakwater...
     
  12. AngryPanda

    AngryPanda Well-Known Member

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    No one mentioned Ko Dali in Onyx yet, which I guess seems fitting because my reaction was "uhg, I guess?". But every extra toy is a good thing. I don't exactly see how to use her yet though, any thoughts? Also is it just me or is the non marker state version on the board just asking to die first down?
     
  13. nakar

    nakar New Member

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    Togehter with the Rodoks and the Greif Operators we gain more mid field dominance. This is at least what I figured out.
     
  14. Obeisance

    Obeisance Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I'm actually looking at Onyx at the moment and they seem to have gotten better since I last looked. Last time I played them was around when Ker Nau came out.

    Greif Operators give midfield presence and an impersonator. Only BS11 but quite cheap. And they're non-token, non-REM, so they can be datatrackers and whatnot.

    Rodoks have picked up a KHD and Haris profile. I totally wouldn't be opposed to running a Unidron defensive core and a Rodok Haris to get up the board and do business.

    Ko Dali got added. An interesting forward deployment profile as well as a jump profile. I think the Fractaa might still be better just due to the second wound, I think. But she's amazing if she gets okay dice.

    Overdron got better with the heavy presence of MSV stuff. You can't shoot him first turn with visors.

    Malignos got a 33pt 0 swc KHD profile. Money.

    M-Drone has also rocketed up in value with all the camo spam everywhere.

    I'm.. actually pretty interested to see what I can do with Onyx. I have virtually no interest in running Spiral Corps even though I ordered the box and who knows when Shasvastii will be out. I don't really wanna proxy an army.
     
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  15. Indominus Rex

    Indominus Rex Active Member

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    I'm getting into Onyx and decided to make a list to try and get a good idea of what I'm doing right or wrong. Thoughts?
    Onyx Contact Force
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    MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    NEXUS Hacker (EI Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nullifier / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 24)
    MALIGNOS MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 42)
    MALIGNOS Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 34)
    XEODRON Red Fury, Blitzen / Heavy Pistol. (1 | 63)
    [​IMG] STALDRON Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0)
    XEODRON K1 Combi Rifle, Blitzen / Heavy Pistol. (0.5 | 63)
    [​IMG] STALDRON Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0)
    UMBRA SAMARITAN Lieutenant Breaker Combi Rifle, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Vorpal CC Weapon. (0 | 40)

    3.5 SWC | 295 Points

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  16. Sabin76

    Sabin76 Well-Known Member

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    What mission? Is this an "all comers" type list?

    If so, you definitely don't want less than 10 orders if you can help it, even with TacAware. Your Nexus isn't doing anything with that hacking device except being a specialist, so I'd drop him and change the shotty Malignos to the KHD version. Swap out the TO sniper for a TO ML Noctifer for a potentially more devastating surprise ARO out of hidden deployment. Use the leftover points to add in 3 more orders and you've got yourself the workings of a functional XEO list.
     
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  17. 0rph3u5

    0rph3u5 TAG, you're it! :3

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    Yeah, you're generally gonna want AT LEAST 10 orders. You need bodies on the ground watching flanks, providing orders, and overall supporting your heavy lifters. Here's an example, taking @Sabin76's advice.

    Onyx Contact Force
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    [​IMG]10
    XEODRON Red Fury, Blitzen / Heavy Pistol. (1 | 63)
    [​IMG] STALDRON Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0)
    XEODRON MULTI Rifle, Blitzen / Heavy Pistol. (0.5 | 62)
    [​IMG] STALDRON Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0)
    UMBRA SAMARITAN Lieutenant Breaker Combi Rifle, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Vorpal CC Weapon. (0 | 40)
    NOCTIFER Missile Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32)
    MALIGNOS Hacker (EI Killer Hacking Device) Submachine Gun, Dazer, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 33)
    MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID (Journalist L1) Submachine Gun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
    SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    NEXUS (Specialist Operative) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    R-DRONE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

    3 SWC | 300 Points

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    Now your Xeodron link has 12 orders to jump around and shoot things with thanks to tac awareness. The noctifer is just as capable an ARO piece as a malignos sniper and is actually stronger most of the time due to the missile launcher template and dogged. Nexus is downgraded, but still is a decent back-up specialist and now you've got a couple ikadrons and an R-drone to provide flash pulses and flamethrower templates for defense. Other angles would be to trade the noctifer, ikadrons, and R-drone for 4 unidrons to become a 5-man (robot, beep boop) link with the nexus in which case you could re-upgrade the nexus to a hacker to provide supportware. You've got a decent amount of flexibility, have fun! :D
     
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  18. Indominus Rex

    Indominus Rex Active Member

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    Thanks you two. I'm trying to figure out a good list for Onyx. I was planning on adding some Unidron as a way to have more units.
     
  19. Baszoo

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    So we are getting linkable Ko-Dali in Onyx soon. I'm super curious. What will happen to Onyx in N4!?
     
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  20. melkiach

    melkiach PheroBoosted

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    Kerr Nau is a Chaksa Character Impersonator lvl 2, one day i'll play it on a Tohaa sectorial army, and you all know that :p

    PD: Very excited for Ko-Dali n4 profile!
     
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