I agree with both. TA is awesome but I wouldn't want WB to be like IA. I just find it frustrating when trying to make a Jujak team and have to take out jujak and put in shang ji to make it work. Right now if you make a Jujak team, you might as well go Limited insertion, however you don't have many of the things that can make limited work.
I think the best shots you'll have at limited insertion for WB will come from either camo spam lists, TAG lists (especially duo'd with the Shang Ji tinbot B for increased order efficiency), or a combination of the two. Relying on an offensive core just doesn't strike me as WB's strong suit. In fact, I think we'll probably see a lot of good WB lists that opt to go without a core at all, or as a second pseudo haris.
I already liked Duos in Ikari and Dahshat, Theres's one that looks good to me. Jujak + Lei Gong. Also a Shang Ji + Tian Gou.
Yes but about 5 months of N3! Not that I'm getting to play for a month, but still! We need to work with what we have at the moment. So, not matter what, you must have one Shang ji in a link. So which one is it? For me, right now
But on the other hand the Crane became a certified badass. YJ isn't as forgotten about as many whine about.
I can see using the Jujak more in Vanilla than Zuyong or other HI, mainly due to speed. It's too bad the only specialist is a the BSG but still not bad.
Indeed. Made even worse by the fact that now he has been cucked by Lei Gong, if you want a CoC option.
I don't see any practic problem if you want to play a Jujak fireteam nost that the necesity to include one Shang-Ji and the weakness it means. For example The White Banner Army──────────────────────────────────────────────────3 JUJAK Spitfire, Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 39) JUJAK Engineer Boarding Shotgun, Panzerfaust, D-Charges / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 36) SHÀNG JÍ (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower + TinBot B (Deflector L2) / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0.5 | 43) 2 SWC | 118 PointsOpen in Infinity Army The part i dislike isn't the Jujak, is the shang ji (and by extension the defiance Invencibles) being in WB, and having porfile revision and new models now. Instead of doing it right when IA came out. The Jujak should be like the Wu Mings for ISS. A speciallized HI for this sectorial. Is not a problem beacuse i can pick a Jujak fireteam and use a Zuyong as a proxy (or the hacker Shang-Ji from the beyond).
I keep trying to look for positives, but unfortunately the Shang Ji does more to hurt the Jujak, than help. He's not a bad troop unto himself but while he still has 4-4 move, he does nothing but hold back the JJ. For that i'd rather have just Shang Ji than Jujak.
Below the line restrictions on fireteam composition should only exist when the balance is extremely threatened. The game needs less railroading and less fine-print rules, not more. To be honest I think wildcard Shang Ji should be taken right out out WBA.
I think they're trying to reinvent the Shang Ji as some kind of spec ops hero unit that joins and takes command of an operation rather than being a full regiment like the Zuyongs.
Our flaming hot Korean dish is still a little bland in N4. I hope the design team take it upon themselves to make it a little more interesting than just a cheap HI before the revision process is done. Suggestions (pleas): Boarding shotguns change to vulkan shotguns Fireteam haris and core in White Banner Army Immunity (Continuous damage)
Yes! Vulkan makes perfect sense YES. And maybe allowed to join Ye Mao and/or Zhanshi Makes sense to me. They seem to have armor that saves them from their own weapon blowing up. Something I thought was weird was they had a Missile Launcher instead of a Heavy Rocket Launcher. They like to play with Fire!
