I think we just discovered the reason his fireteam wording was uniquely stupid instead of just being a wildcard, it's probably the spanish version.
Something to think about is the synergies troops have with each when making lists. For example, Shang Ji with Tinbot B. Any hacker that's in the same team will benefit from that. So how can that be leveraged? Shang Ji fireteam with Tinbot B: Shang Ji Assault Hacker, Tian Gou Killer Hacker Zhanshi fireteam with Shang Ji Tinbot B: Zhanshi Hacker, Tian Gou Killer Hacker Ye Mao fireteam with Shang Ji Tinbot B: Te Mao Hacker or Killer Hacker This will be my Anti-hacker group for sure! Almost as good as the Haidao in IA. It trades a wound, ARM, BS,. for BTS6 Mimetisim, Super Jump, MSV1. But of course more expensive. YĚ MĀO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) MULTI Rifle, Chain-colt / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 28) YĚ MĀO AP Spitfire / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32) SHÀNG JÍ (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower + TinBot B (Deflector L2) / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0.5 | 43) And not only the hacker can benefit of course there's the other HI, but now also the Blue Wolf. I think @Mahtamori said it first, The Shang can wildcard into the Duo, giving the TAG the benefit of the Tinbot B. That would be awesome in Show of Force but also when you know yo uare going against Nomads, Aleph, Combined, and other Yu Jing. BLUE WOLF AP Spitfire, Heavy Flamethrower, Akrylat-Kanone / DA CC Weapon. (2 | 89) BLUE WOLF PILOT Light Flamethrower / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 0) SHÀNG JÍ (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower + TinBot B (Deflector L2) / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0.5 | 43)
I didn't talk about linking Just having the four instances of a "regular zhanshi", so it's difficult for your enemy to hunt your lieutenant
Depends on what you're trying to accomplish. Tian Gou would be cheaper, but it wouldn't provide the Blue Wolf with hacking defence if your opponent decided to ignore the welfare of their hackers and it doesn't provide the Blue Wolf with an extra order to be used for mobility.
Is it a sign of quarantine madness if I desperately try to make 3 fireteams with jammers in every single one work?
Maybe just a little! Can a wildcard swap out the Shaolin with Jing Qo? Not sure why you wouldn't do a Shaolin but for the sake of argument, the Shaolin is klled, but you have an opportunity to duo with Adil or Shang Ji or a Tiani Guo or Lei Gong, etc.
So far I'm not liking that I can't make a good list that has a Jujak/Shang team. I especially can't make a core and haris. No problem Zhanshi team of course. But once I get a Jujak core done, I feel like the rest of the list is poor. I keep running into getting to 10 guys and having points left over or enough to have maybe another team of 1 or 2. Below, I've already replaced a Jujak with a Tian Gou, but anything else is going to go up in points. The White Banner Army ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 10 SHÀNG JÍ (Tactical Awareness) Heavy Rocket Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Shock CCW. (2 | 42) JUJAK Breaker Combi Rifle, Heavy Flamethrower + TinBot B (Deflector L2) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 38) JUJAK Lieutenant Combi Rifle, Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 33) JUJAK Engineer Boarding Shotgun, Panzerfaust, D-Charges / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 36) TIAN GǑU (1st Section) Boarding Shotgun, Grenades, Jammer / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 25) GŬILÁNG (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) GŬILÁNG Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 31) TIGER SOLDIER Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 29) RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 20) Zhanshi YĪSHĒNG Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15) YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) 4 SWC | 299 Points Open in Infinity Army
If you go heavy, I expect fireteams to actually start with Qiang gao (Discount HMG), a Tian Gou (whatever profile, it's the cheapest filler you can get) and lei gong (second cheapest filler, but also brings a specialist to the team and chain of command if you play Qiang gao lieutenant). If you want to include jujiaks in the team, you still need a shang-ji to make it an actual shang-ji fireteam. Don't know which one though, either tinbot or HRL I guess, for tactical awareness. And then you'll be able to add a jujiak as the 5th man. Or a zhanshi, because Qiang Gao, Tian gou, lei gong and shang-ji's are all wildcards, so you can use either. A jujiak ML for ARO duty isn't a bad idea, considering he has courage and a flamer 37/1.5 isn't that expensive for what you get, and once he dies just throw in a zhanshi to go back to 5-man bonus. The White Banner Army ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 6 QIANG GĀO (Lieutenant L2) HMG, Nanopulser / 2 x Breaker Pistol, Knife. (1 | 43) TIAN GǑU (1st Section) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Jammer / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 24) LÉI GŌNG (Chain of Command) Submachine Gun, Nanopulser, Blitzen / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 32) SHÀNG JÍ (Tactical Awareness) Heavy Rocket Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Shock CCW. (2 | 42) JUJAK Missile Launcher, Light Flamethrower / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 37) ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11) 4.5 SWC | 189 Points Open in Infinity Army Then pad out the list with whatever you fancy, guilangs being the most obvious choice, but you can never go wrong with a zhanshi hacker, a rui-shi and some monks. The White Banner Army ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 10 QIANG GĀO (Lieutenant L2) HMG, Nanopulser / 2 x Breaker Pistol, Knife. (1 | 43) TIAN GǑU (1st Section) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Jammer / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 24) LÉI GŌNG (Chain of Command) Submachine Gun, Nanopulser, Blitzen / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 32) SHÀNG JÍ (Tactical Awareness) Heavy Rocket Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Shock CCW. (2 | 42) JUJAK Missile Launcher, Light Flamethrower / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 37) ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11) RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 20) MECH-ENGINEER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15) YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) CHAĪYÌ Yaókòng Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) CHAĪYÌ Yaókòng Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) GROUP 2 2 4 3 ZHANSHI Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19) LÓNG YÁ 2 Panzerfaust, Submachine Gun, Antipersonnel Mines / Electric Pulse. (0 | 20) SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5) SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5) SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5) WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3) 6 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army
It's the other things you fancy that's the hard part. In the lists you had, the specialists are very squishy, slow, and just not good. Though I will say Qiang's Lt. 2 is almost the equivalent of the Tac Aware Shang Ji.
Lei gong is in the fireteam for specialist duty, but realistically for a button pushing mission you might want to play something else, or just replace the rui-shi/long ya/zhanshi hacker by guilangs FO to go and push buttons.
True but It's pretty hard not to take a Rui Shi lol. Lei gong does save a few pts. but now no ENG for isolation and Immobilize.
You may want to look into the ITS documents where they list the skills that can be used to activate stuff. CoC is always in there.
I'm not understanding why they didn't give Ye Mao a core team option. It's not like they would have been powerful. Why give them an AVA5 and only a Haris ability? and after creating a 5-man YM it's not like you have a lot of points left over. The Varagar almost the same and they got core. I'm just getting a little frustrated with making lists. I can't find a core team I like. But i wouldn't mind a core of them! The White Banner Army ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 9 1 1 YĚ MĀO (Forward Observer) MULTI Rifle, Chain-colt, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 28) YĚ MĀO Engineer MULTI Rifle, Chain-colt, Panzerfaust, D-Charges / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 31) YĚ MĀO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) MULTI Rifle, Chain-colt / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 28) YĚ MĀO AP Spitfire / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32) YĚ MĀO Missile Launcher, Chain-colt / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 28) HÙNDÙN (X Visor) Heavy Rocket Launcher / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 26) JING QO MULTI Rifle, Chain-colt / Breaker Pistol, AP+DA CC Weapon. (0 | 39) SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5) DÀOFĚI Lieutenant Spitfire / Pistol, Shock CCW. (1.5 | 55) GŬILÁNG (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) 6 SWC | 299 Points Open in Infinity Army
Might be a left over artifact from an earlier stage in testing where they may have had core before it was removed.
