Would be interesting to know, if all Core Boxes or (only) Core Plegdes will be shipped July 2020. If its the Core Boxes then Collectors/Deluxe/Platinum Pledges would receive two shipments, but were able to play the game already in August (for instance). It could be this way, because they wrote it is possible to have Wave 1 shipments (Core Box/Pledge) sent with Wave 2 (Rest). This only makes sense if I receive two shipments, otherwise there is no point in delaying delivery. So Wave 1 could be sending out all the Core boxes and Wave 2 the custom contents everybody ordered additionally (Collectors, Reinforcement Packs in varying numbers, Expansions, Dice, Sleeves, maybe Bodys for the alternative Hero sculpts and so on)
It's in the comments, the Core/Collectors pledges are predicted by July, the expansion and further releases might be later depending on volume.
FFS, this should be stated up front on the main page. They claim July 2020 delivery on the Deluxe pledges. Especially if they're gonna make us pay 20-25 EUR twice or more times for delivery...
Like I said above, July 2020 is still the estimated delivery for everything in the Core, Collectors, and Deluxe pledge.
Oh, what you said sounded like Deluxe stuff and things unlocked as stretches (not expansions themselves) might be delayed as well. Still, they NEED TO communicate this clearly. Backers can't be forced to shark through 2500 comments and two constantly growing threads on the Forum just to know the basics.
That's way too late - people are already pledging with an eye specifically towards Outcast and unaware that it will get delayed a few months.
Then they can change their pledge back, I don't think that many people will be surprised by the expansion being a second wave release.
Sure they can, but they've already been charged off their VISA / account for the pledge and the return takes time. It's an outstandingly bad practice and part of the misinformation practice that I've noticed reoccuring with Corvus Belli more and more these last few years. Whether that's malice or just ineptitude doesn't really matter in the end. It has the customer freeze his money due to lack of, incorrect or incomplete information which really ought to be readily available.
I was of the understanding that the funds aren't charged until after the campaign is completed. Edit: Checked my bank, no hold or charge from Kickstarter for my pledge,though my bank isn't the most usual of it's kind.
Yeah, I thought this was pretty standard. Heck, I back a lot of Onyx Path rpg Kickstarters and the year after the main product releases often becomes a constant drip of strech goal content. New stuff gets made at different speeds, especially compared to the already preped-for-manufacturing main product.
And you pay for shipment only once? Because if it's two or several stages, I'm not sure how 20-25 EUR are supposed to pay for it in EU, with the regular CB shipment prices (16 EUR to me normally).
If I remember, it has worked a couple of different ways. Earlier on you paid shipping once but the whole order would be delayed till everything was ready and done. This got a good bit of backlash, so they tried a number of different solutions such as sending everyone digital drafts, near final edited docs, and finally digital finals first while also having at-cost POD options for the truly impatient. They also tried increasing the prices of add-ons to account for unexpected shipping/production time misalignments, so while you officially paid shipping once there was effectively an invisible shipping cost built into goals... which honestly seems to work with most backers to my surprise. Another solution, which might have been a cost reduction measure related to the last, was setting predetermined waves for stretch goal production and holding things for staggered release, often with this part handled by a separate warehouse partner. I haven't followed their latest Kickstarters super closely since I generally pledge and then ignore communications so as to avoid KS hype, but I'm sure they've refined what they do presentation-wise and behind the scenes. What I do know from the early days was them it was a rather rough process for them figuring it all out even though they company had plenty of experience in the tabletop RPG industry. They only setted on their current approach over multiple Kickstarters, some of which where grossly delayed (looking at you Exalted 3rd Edition) before they figured out some basic things like having drafts done before launching a campaign. Luckily they had, for the most part, pretty understanding fans who knew the company wasn't a huge Wizards of the Coast-esque operation, much in the same way CB isn't GW. That didn't excuse certain screw ups but I think we all know that Kickstarter, as they say themselves, isn't a storefront. There are a lot of ways to run one and a smaller company running their first few is definitely going to be figuring out a lot of things in the process.
The number of people who treat kickstarter like a normal retail outlet expectations wise never ceases to amaze me. Despite constant efforts by kickstarter and co to remind them otherwise.
If the companies are releasing the product treating KS as an alternative to their regular distribution channel (exactly like CB is doing here), but instead of immediate payment and delivery they expect us to lend them money for a year or so, then they better also expect retail outlet expectations from the customer base. Especially on QA and communication.
So, how do I actually get Kistune? I don't want to back the KS because literally nothing is in my interest.. Except Kitsune. Is she available as an add-on, so I can just piggy back her with one of my friend's KS? Or is she a KS exsclusive?
