1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

PanOceania in N4

Discussion in 'PanOceania' started by psychoticstorm, Aug 6, 2019.

  1. Smiler

    Smiler Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2017
    Messages:
    193
    Likes Received:
    362
    Is this Bostria hinting that Pan O is getting put OOP as he always intended? No need for an updated support box if the faction is gone...

    As I only play ASA I'm just going to echo the calls for updates on Rao and Singh. They're both really cool models and I'd love a reason to use them. Especially Singh, he's the only recognisably Indian mini in the range, seems a shame the only representation of such a big part of the Acon population isn't really worth using.
     
    theradrussian and AdmiralJCJF like this.
  2. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2017
    Messages:
    4,237
    Likes Received:
    9,554
    When did Bostria want to put PanO OOP? ;)

    About that support pack - it sounds like there will be a philosophy change, and PanO will be at the forefront of it. It might be both good or bad.
     
  3. Smiler

    Smiler Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2017
    Messages:
    193
    Likes Received:
    362
    Well, Pan O was a mistake [emoji14]

    It could be a hint at a new way of packaging to combat SKU bloat. Bigger boxes, maybe a scrapping of the 6 man starter and a move towards boxes like the JSA and Spiral boxes for every army. The USARF starter has already been discontinued so you can only get it in the army box.

    The 6 man boxes haven't ever really made sense as a starter force so changing them to be more intuitive to new players would be very welcome.
     
    Hecaton and csjarrat like this.
  4. Cartographer

    Cartographer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2017
    Messages:
    738
    Likes Received:
    1,216

    OOh, maybe PanO's Doctors and Engineers are being replaced by next-generation REMs?
    At lest they'll be WIP 13 if that were the case.
     
    Pinky, theradrussian and AngryPanda like this.
  5. Sangarn

    Sangarn TRIUMcorp CEO
    Warcor

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2018
    Messages:
    856
    Likes Received:
    1,531
    Feuerbach auxbot is a lovely idea, I want that ^^
    Heavy weapon on auxbot is the PanO way
     
    AdmiralJCJF and Stiopa like this.
  6. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2017
    Messages:
    4,002
    Likes Received:
    4,661
    Deletion of generic Machinist for a transision of this role into main MI core units of PanO (Bagh-Mari, Bolts, Kamaus(?), suck it up MO) ?
     
    theradrussian likes this.
  7. Seraphin

    Seraphin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2018
    Messages:
    101
    Likes Received:
    92
    Or Father-Engineer will become Father-Knight (Engineer) having some Kaplan-style gear and retaining it's basic profile. And maybe becoming full wildcard instead of OS link member. But this won't ever happen :P
     
    AdmiralJCJF, Berithh and eciu like this.
  8. Werekill

    Werekill Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2019
    Messages:
    121
    Likes Received:
    86
    On this note, I wouldn't be surprised to see this happen. I also wouldn't be surprised to see the Vanilla starters become actual starters, with them including support pack, dronbots, etc. Stuff that works across sectorials and will always be used.
     
    AdmiralJCJF likes this.
  9. AdmiralJCJF

    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2017
    Messages:
    3,532
    Likes Received:
    4,594
    Now THAT would be a real miracle!
     
    csjarrat and theradrussian like this.
  10. csjarrat

    csjarrat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2017
    Messages:
    1,741
    Likes Received:
    1,843
    I've said it for a while, the best way to combat SKU bloat is to do 300pt boxes for all factions. Wrap up loads of skus into one box and have a few bits and bobs like the "beyond" boxes and blisters as extras
     
    Judge Dredd likes this.
  11. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2017
    Messages:
    4,002
    Likes Received:
    4,661
    Wow we ran out of ideas quite fast.....
     
  12. SpectralOwl

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2018
    Messages:
    1,891
    Likes Received:
    3,130
    Well, gotta show that WIP -1.

    I think most of PanO is just fairly happy with what we have, and it's fairly easy to summarise favoured additions. NCA, ASA and Varuna are all great, MO is fluffy and most things people want in it are easy to summarise (Smoke, Better Teutons, An End To Spec. Sgts) and nobody plays Vanilla at all so there's nobody to complain!
     
    borisgreymenace likes this.
  13. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2017
    Messages:
    4,002
    Likes Received:
    4,661
    <MO untermensch here ;P>
     
    theradrussian likes this.
  14. AdmiralJCJF

    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2017
    Messages:
    3,532
    Likes Received:
    4,594
    A lot of our minor niggles are far more major issues elsewhere.

    For example, the CC tax pushing up the price of Order Sergeants is far more significant in Yu Jing and solving it for them will also help us.
     
    Superfluid likes this.
  15. theradrussian

    theradrussian Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2018
    Messages:
    506
    Likes Received:
    851
    Eh, vanilla Yu-Jing is more than capable of 20 orders at 300pts, so I'm not really able to agree here.

    Re valuing arm, re valuing BS on the basis that skills give equivalent benefits for less (BS literally protects you, as does mimetism for less price than a +3 BS bump).
     
  16. AdmiralJCJF

    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2017
    Messages:
    3,532
    Likes Received:
    4,594
    Your objection is nonsensical.

    Their ability to get to 20 orders (dubious in a viable Vanilla list) is irrelevant the point that CC is an issue, it's what breaks the Order Sergeant, and Yu Jing have a better chance of getting it fixed than we do.

    But, assuming it gets fixed, we'll still benefit.
     
  17. theradrussian

    theradrussian Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2018
    Messages:
    506
    Likes Received:
    851
    The zanshi CC tax issue is a non-issue if given their lack of sectorial (okay, NA2 for the contrarians), they will only be used in vanilla YJ and said vanilla YJ still doesn't have issue with order counts. Order sgts are never taken in vanilla, but also have a sectorial built on the premise of them being the basic infantry.

    I do agree that YJ will likely see it fixed before us though, because past evidence shows a lack of will on the team to deal with the mess here.
     
  18. SpectralOwl

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2018
    Messages:
    1,891
    Likes Received:
    3,130
    IA has Zhanshi too, and their order count issue is worse than MO if they aren't going REM spam or Zuyong.
     
  19. theradrussian

    theradrussian Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2018
    Messages:
    506
    Likes Received:
    851
    You mean, aside from tacical sense and NCo on profiles that don't cost 2SWC?
     
  20. MikeTheScrivener

    MikeTheScrivener O-12 Peace Kepper

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2018
    Messages:
    2,556
    Likes Received:
    3,509
    I was thinking a lot about the Father Knight – wouldn't it be a cool fix if they just switched his assault out for Berserk. That would give him a unique role, he would useful and still true to the flavor.
     
    Lady Numiria likes this.
  • About Us

    We are a company founded in 2001 in Cangas (Spain), and devoted to design and manufacture games and figures. Our main product, Infinity the Game, was born with the ambition to satisfy the most demanding audience, offering the best quality.

     

    Why are we here?

     

    Because we are, first and foremost, players.

  • Quick Navigation

    Open the Quick Navigation