Stupid Proxy Question

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  1. Anansi

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    I feel I've asked this before, and maybe I have, but I can't find anywhere in the rules that says I can't despite my whole five minutes of research. That said, the Air Bud Clause is a very poor basis upon which to try this gambit at a tournament, so I figured I should ask the Hive Mind.

    Am I allowed to bring two proxies? I don't mean two proxy models; the rules are very clear about needing between two to three models to actually run the trooper. But what if I want to run two troopers with all five proxies?

    For example something like this:

    Operations Subsection of the S.S.S.
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]1
    PROXY Mk.1 Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 14)
    PROXY Mk.2 MULTI Sniper Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 24)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG]
    PROXY Mk.4 Heavy Rocket Launcher, Submachine Gun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 20)
    PROXY Mk.3 Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 21)
    PROXY Mk.5 (Forward Observer) 2 Submachine Guns, Nanopulser, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)

    6 SWC | 89 Points

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    Is this legal? And if not, then why?

    Edit:

    Special thanks to CSJarrat & Daszul for their responses. The answer is no, this is not legal. Please see proof below.

    Proof.JPG
     
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    No,Because the posthuman is ava1
     
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    The 'note' entry in the army builder states that you have to take at least 2, but no more than 3 proxies,
    and that they have to belong to the same combat group.
    Entries like these are not about a single trooper,
    but the AVA in the whole army list.

    So you can't take 5 proxies in 2 combat groups.
     
  4. Anansi

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    Ah, this must be a consequence of using the Wiki and the Army Mobile app exclusively. Is there a Post Human profile? All I see are the individual unit profiles for each proxy, which while AVA 1, can be taken on their own provided there are no duplicates.
     
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    • All the Proxies of a G: Jumper trooper must be in the same Combat Group, where they are counted as only one trooper.

    I'm trying to figure out if I can take two troopers worth of proxies.
     
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    daszul Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, AVA here is a bit misleading.
    As I understand it, it covers the trooper's AVA as well as the proxy's AVA.
     
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    Yeah the posthuman is what controls the proxies. The posthuman is ava 1, as are each of the proxies.
    So can't have two lots of proxies in separate groups mate
     
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    Alright, I found the answer in the profiles document of the Infinity Downloads. The Posthumans are considered a single unit and have an availability of one. I went ahead and attached the image to this post and edited the above one with the answer.

    Hello future people who Google this question!

    Proof.JPG
     
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    Funnily enough, during al old campaign in Madrid Helllois was asked about the +1 AVA of the development table. It applies to bodies, not to the Posthuman per se (so we were able to deploy 2 mk1 and a mk2, for example, but never exceed 3 proxies on the table).

    Do note that the Apsaras is another kind of jumper troop entirely XD
     
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