She was human during the period Aristeia! was set and "uploaded" into a Posthuman between then and the current Infinity present.
Posthuman Proxies (unit) =/= Posthumans (fluff concept) Dart's mind is uploaded to the Cloud, but she's not necessarily in possession of either the clearance or raw resources to run multiple bodies at once. Or her gameplay profile is segregated from her fluff capabilities. Either way, I think we need to concentrate on what really matters here: Fuck Dart, she's dumb and overpowered/undercosted.
Since YJ is now clearly HI Command and Control, some 'lackies only' skills like Counterintelligence or so loaded on HIs wouldnt hurt. Bring us back our concept!
Don't most aleph players (I could have got the wrong message there) consider Dart fairly average and not an auto-pick though? i'm not convinced I'd take her in vanilla yu jing to be honest.
She's a very potent element in Acontecimento, where she slots as a counter-skirmisher-skirmisher in alongside Nagas and Peacemakers to give a very well rounded midfield presence. Well worth the points you pay for her, despite being more expensive than either of those other pieces.
That would be an incorrect assumption. I've spent time going through literally entire event worths of lists taken to satellites, the very common AHDs mostly include: NA2 with Brawlers OSS/Aleph Proxies Haqq/StarCo Al Hawwa NCA Deva AHD (players have been favouring it almost as hard as we favour Guilangs and more than the Aleph players) Nomads/Tunguska Mary Problems There are less common AHDs that still crop up too, our Guilang is one of those for example. Zoe's also technically not an AHD but she's a common occurrence and her upgraded Stop! is a pretty strong ARO program against any HI without stealth. The amount of hacking varies between events for sure but if you're assuming that it doesn't get taken then I can only conclude you haven't really been paying attention because from looking at the lists being taken it's definitely showing up. As someone else has already pointed out wasting a bunch of orders F2F rolling resets or even just eating Gotcha on a normal roll and getting stuck is a bad thing for the Liu Xing. Funny you mention the Garuda, there's a reason ISS favours the non shotgun profiles. I'll let you try to figure out why that is. If your opponent is letting you goomba stomp their hackers (or trivially delete or avoid them) then they need to reevaluate their deployment strategies because as previously said on the topic: You're gonna get attacked by HI at some point, respond accordingly to the threat. Back on actually fixing the Liu Xing, if all N4 did was enhance the Liu Xing's AD to level 5 I'd be largely ok with that. One the main problems with the unit is he's pretty expensive which is a big detriment when comparing him to the other drop troops available, but he's a model that's designed to go for broke with the drop rolls. If there wasn't such a huge kick in the balls for failing that drop roll he wouldn't feel nearly so bad. It would give him a pretty good argument to be taken on missions like Decapitation that have the enlarged deployment zones, failing an aggressive drop then just popping up on the 16" line with a spitfire wouldn't feel like much of a loss. It would also really assist in differentiating the Liu Xing from Tigers.
I mean I sure would. Vanilla Yu Jing with a Daofei, 2 Guilangs, a Zencha, and Dart plus possible Ninjas? That is not a fun mid field to try and clear out.
Sorry if this is an echo. I've not read the prior responses. All i ask is for there to be clear ruling on the Hsien/smoke/madtrap "trick" , smoke/msv2/ZoC "trick" and finally a ruling on the coordinated order smoke/msv2/kuangshi bait "trick" Bao troopers Cheers
People take all kind of garbage to satellites wip 12 brawler sounds like a purely comedy option sorry NCA still favors Hexa KHD for rem authorization and takes Deva sensor for veteran classifieds duty and LT roll OSS - sniper mk2 is too good and they skip on mk1 in favor of apsaras al hawwa is okay but people still take FO more Mary Problems is not an optimal choice in either armies she is available in and an object to much mockery out of those the only decent one with chance to see table is Zoe and - guess what - you can splat her on a jump and cut their access to assisted fire if Liu Xing is as bad as you and some others people in the whine circlejerk pretend then surely a good player wont bother to waste time countering it in deployment, surely they dont expect you to use bad units right?
As far as the Liu Xing ist concerned, a new model with different loadout would be a great start. Explode LX has so much potential in terms of unique poses (fist smash into the ground with flying debris).
These are some interesting perspectives. Whereabouts do you play? Some of these I can understand, but right now there's a lengthy discussion over on the PanO forums right now that includes significant and warranted enthusiasm for the Deva AHD.
I think that CB will not read our ideas for N4 if this thread continues to derail like it has been in the last 4 pages.
And Posthuman Mk.2 AHD really ruins one's day with WIP 18 Carbonite. AHD should not be underestimated :/
Concur - we have a local that uses them religiously (although you'd never hear me gainsaying the sniper, it's also incredible).
Back on the topic; Although I think most ideas are came out by now. Is there any design space for further YJ in progress?
I really like the idea and as Spec-Ops also get 2-3 points of CC for 1 XP it shouldn't be that unrealistic. And what would this change ? AD5 in itself is not really useful. I fit were like Superior Infiltration, giving +3 to your PH roll it would be nice. What could help him is a better Explode LX, 12 normal damage is not really great and even line troopers can realativly easy save against. Higher damage or special ammo would be nice. I would love a pose like this, not someone stumbling across debris...
