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Yu Jing White Banner Army

Discussion in 'Yu Jing' started by Zerooness, May 6, 2019.

  1. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    TBH I doubt Kuang Shi get to play in White Banner.
     
  2. Zerooness

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    yeah thats why i called it whitebannerish :P
     
  3. Zerooness

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    https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Infinity_(wargame)
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    Additional Sectorials[edit]
    The following sectorials either have models that fit with them, are rumoured or about to be released, or are still up in the air.

    • PanO
      • Svalarheima: Scandinavians in space, mountain climbing abilities to be expected. Expect multispectral visors, linked Nisses or a linked team supporting the hardest TAG in the game - the Jotum. Likely will get released as part of a campaign pitting them against the Huang Di. Some hints that this is getting closer. Jotums Assemble!
    • Yu Jing
      • Huang Di: the "White Banner," basically Tibetan guerrilla snipers and linkable Shaolin monks with power weapons. They are a constant pain in the side to Svalarheima as both have laid claims to the planet they both inhabit.
    • HaqqIslam
      • Gabqar Khanate: post-apocalyptic wasteland full of neo-Mongol bikers and Mad Max wannabes, may also feature a smattering of Kazak troops and assorted mercenaries. May have been rolled into Dashat, or may still be up int he air. Fewer opportunities for this to release given Corvus Belli's announced release schedule.
    • Nomads
      • Black Hand: Nomad Spec-Ops and intelligence community, will probably be similar to the Onyx Contact Force for the Combined Army, taking units from other sectorials.
    • Combined Army
      • EI/Ur sectorial: doesn't even have a cool name yet, but will allegedly allow linkable teams with EI aspects. Status: up in the air.
      • Sygmaa Trihedron: With the growing influence of the Trinomial and the Tohaa themselves being cut off, Corvus Belli could toss together the two existing models (Maakrep and Fraacta), a couple CA models, and some stuff from the Tohaa/Spiral Corps range for an alien NA2-equivalent. Just a dream at this point.
    • NA2
      • White Company: Apparently different than Free Company of the White Star (StarCo). White Company is buddy buddy with Aleph, and may integrate some OSS units alongside 'nicer' mercenaries like KTS. Big enough to be mentioned as part of the "Big 6," but no other details just yet.
     
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  4. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    That page is out of date; Black Hand has been shot down in terms of a sectorial idea by CB. They're already present in above all Tunguska, and not large enough to merit their own sectorial.
     
  5. ObviousGray

    ObviousGray Frenzied Mushroom

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    I wage White banner to be a plain modern Yu Jing sectorial.

    Reading through 3rd Offensive and DF, I would not wage much to our Arctic sectorial, but here's my two cents.

    • Zhanshis AVA T Core
    • Zuyongs AVA 3-4 Core counts as Zhanshi
    • Shang Ji AVA 2-3(Im quite serious CB will do this thing) Wildcard
    • Guilangs AVA 3-4
    • Daofei AVA 2
    • Zhencha AVA 2
    • Shaolins, somewhat linkable, AVA better than 4
    • Tigers, ffs, Tigers.
    • Nu units which will probably stoke the fires in forums
    • Remotes
    • Some mercs, hands off Gromoz
    Aside from New units, I'm not expecting White banner to be shiny. We'll get something, eventually. But it will be just as suspected.
     
  6. Zerooness

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    Some guy in this thread (forgott who sryy) sayd that the daofei will be included and i dint believ him, but if you look at the trooper logos, they all follow some kind of pattern, for example nomads are the easiest to distinguish like orange/black corregidor / white orange bakunin black orange tunguska. so if the shaolin will be included (and they will) then the daoying will be too, same is for tiger soldier > Hac tao, Haidao (so Mowang wil probably not be included). Maybe this is nothimg new but i just discovered it about now^^

    P.S.: Hope well get a Shaolin Character which can make the shaolin regular
     
  7. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    We're guessing the Dao Fei shows up in White Banner because they're supposed to be in IA, but were retconned out of it at the 11th hour along with the Tiger Soldiers. So if they're not going in the sectorial they've always supposed to be in, this is the only other place we could think of putting them because we have no ideas about any other sectorials for YJ.
     
  8. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly.

    The only Sectorials we knew YJ had (from the original Human Sphere in N2!) were JSA, Imperial Service, Invincible Army (HI-heavy), and White Banner ('traditional' Banner Army). The running discussion from then was that every major faction was going to have 4 sectorial armies, with PanO getting a 5th because of MO (PanO was looking at Acon, Varuna, Neoterra, and Svalarheima, plus MO). Then in Paradiso we got introduced to the idea of the Earth Bastion Army, which would be a 6th PanO sectorial.

    Now JSA got split off into their own nation (OK, we did kinda see hints of that being possible in N2), and we're down to 3 sectorials in YJ: Imperial Service, IA, and WB.

    If we can come up with something, a new 4th YJ sectorial wouldn't be bad, but we also know from the Uprising book that the Yellow Banner is on Earth. So if the "White Banner Army" is really "any given Banner Army," or could easily represent any one of the Banner Armies, that eliminates the 'YJ Earth Bastion Army' as an idea for a new sectorial.
     
  9. Maksimas

    Maksimas Heavy Infantry Addict Maxim

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    Is it just me being dumb or is it GENUINELY really hard to think of anything we would actually need after WB if it ends up adhering to a basic expectation of:
    It has a Zhanshi, REMs, Guilang, Zhencha, Shaolins, Tigers, Daofei and maybe 2 new HI, a new MI and a new SK.

    I mean... after that point, what would we even need...?
     
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  10. Zerooness

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    my bad i meant daoying!! ^^"
     
  11. Zerooness

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    more camo ;)
     
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  12. Maksimas

    Maksimas Heavy Infantry Addict Maxim

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    But do we REALLY?
     
  13. Zerooness

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    good question, i think some varient in Equipmentcould be good. If we only have wht we speculate on we have no sensor, no mvs2, no xvisor even E/M isnt served..
     
  14. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Seriously, write Zhencha off. Not only are they exclusive IA creations, they have a serious overlap with Guilang and Daofei where the latter was scrapped for IA in favour of the Zhencha. Keep in mind overlap between sectorials is fairly uncommon outside of NA2 and lease-lend units like Garuda.

    You're missing roughly 6 units and 1 to 3 characters to make a small (IA sized) sectorial. Double that by mixing in mercenaries and the likes and you'll get ISS sectorial size.

    Guijia (or Blue Wolf) is missing on your list and so is Hac Tao as it being probably the only overlap you'll see with IA except for Zhanshi (something something white helmet something). Then you need a beat stick option and something mid-tier or maybe two integrated mid-tiers. Save a slot or two for a new-thinking surprise unit (a Hype Unit).
     
  15. csjarrat

    csjarrat Well-Known Member

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    Last thing infinity needs is more sectoral and more profile bloat. Happy to stick at 3 good and different sectoral myself
     
  16. Maksimas

    Maksimas Heavy Infantry Addict Maxim

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    So an Explode LX REM.

    I highly doubt we'd see the Hac Tao in WB, at least compared to the Zhencha.

    Overlap or not, it's a far safer assumption the Zhencha would be in WB than the Hac Tao would. It's a lot simpler than making a new SK unit to go alongside the Guilang, at least.

    It doesn't seem that uncommon though:
    Montesas and ORCs are in near every PanO sectorial, Tikbalangs are in two.
    Onyx is a big blob of sectorial overlaps.
    Janisaries are in the places at the same time.
    Not sure we can count Foreign Company, Dahshat or StarCo for having a buncha Pano/YJ/nomad units, since they're NA2 and whatnot.

    I still would't expect any more than 5 new units though, which'd probably be 2 HI, and 1 of each for WB, SK and MI. T:

    I'd assume these beatsticks would end up being the new HI.
    I'd suspect the mid-tier to be an MI unit though. T:
     
  17. Maksimas

    Maksimas Heavy Infantry Addict Maxim

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    Pretty sure we'd run out of ideas for new stuff for YJ before we even reach the 3rd sectorial, it's hard enough to think of anything we'd need ( Again, that might just be me being an idiot. ).
     
  18. Zerooness

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    oh no the hac tao for shure, alomst 100% svae he is gonna be in WB!! If not, then you can also exclude the tiger because their troopers logo has the same pattern.
    what wb needs is either more profile options equipement etc. Or they have to specialise ind something (camo) to be something that can be played as a alternative, so probably eclipse smoke and cheap units with limited camo. Like the daylami for instance
     
  19. Maksimas

    Maksimas Heavy Infantry Addict Maxim

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    I highly doubt we'd get that, since that might give us disposable defensive ARO bodies.

    By this very same logic the Zhencha should not have been in IA without the Daofei or Guilang, since their logos are also very similar. This would also be an indication for the Hai Dao to be there too, their logo also looks like theirs. And also basically guarantee the Zhencha to be there too.

    Just saying, color coding might not be the most reliable indicator here. T
     
  20. Janzerker

    Janzerker Well-Known Member

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    I agree, you're an idiot who easily forgot YuJing has 13 less units than the average number of profiles in the rest of factions. Following your reasoning what the heck could they add to PanO or Nomads for example? All the major factions are already over bloated in options. On the other hand, supposedly, Uprising has opened new design space for this faction, therefore this available space needs to be filled. Actually I'm quite confident, or at least I want to believe that Krit Kokram is the first of a slow flux of new units that will start dropping for YJ, not necessarily related with the next sectorial but as additions to IA and IS, in order to fill those 13 slots so that YJ can catch up with the rest of factions in competitivity. If someone tries to argue YJ is already competitive, well, ITS data shows the opposite. I have yet to see a YJ army winning a major event or showing a strong presence in the top 10, unlike Aleph, Tohaa, PanO, Ariadna and Nomads. Don't get me wrong the faction is playable but its performance in ITS is so so, so there must be a reason why the top competitive players don't choose any YJ army.
     
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