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Decapitation difference in Scoring between English and Spanish

Discussion in 'ITS' started by Hachiman Taro, Apr 29, 2019.

  1. Hachiman Taro

    Hachiman Taro Inverted gadfly

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    Hi,

    The Spanish and English versions of ITS have different scoring for this mission. Which is correct (or are they meant to be different)?

    The English reads:

    • To kill more Army Points than the adversary (2 Objective Points).
    • To kill the same amount of Lieutenants as the
    adversary (2 Objective Points, but only if at least
    1 Lieutenant is killed by the player).
    • To kill more Lieutenants than the adversary (3 Objective Points).
    • To kill the Designated Target (2 Objective Points).
    • To kill the Designated Target with your
    DataTracker (3 extra Objective Points).

    The Spanish reads:

    • Eliminar más Puntos de Ejército enemigos que
    el adversario (3 Puntos de Objetivo).
    • Eliminar tantos Tenientes enemigos como el adversario (2
    Puntos de Objetivo, si se ha eliminado al menos a un Teniente).
    • Eliminar más Tenientes enemigos que el
    adversario (4 Puntos de Objetivo).
    • Eliminar al Objetivo Designado (2 Puntos de Objetivo).
    • Eliminar al Objetivo Designado con el DataTracker
    propio (1 Puntos de Objetivo Extra).

    Which google translates to:

    • Eliminate more enemy Army Points that
    the adversary (3 Objective Points).
    • Eliminate as many enemy Lieutenants as the adversary (2
    Objective Points, if at least one Lieutenant has been eliminated).
    • Eliminate more enemy Lieutenants than the
    adversary (4 Objective Points).
    • Eliminate the Designated Objective (2 Objective Points).
    • Eliminate the Designated Objective with the DataTracker
    own (1 Extra Objective Points).

    I think this mission is very often complained about in English speaking metas because the English scoring means the first turn player can easily get 5 OP in their first order spent, making it hard for the second turn player to win. The Spanish scoring seems better.

    I hope the Spanish is correct. Is the Spanish correct?

    @HellLois @ijw
     
  2. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    Huh, that flew under the radar for quite some time.
     
  3. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, that would turn it back into a mission primarily about killing enemy Lts.
     
  4. BLOODGOD

    BLOODGOD Vampire Hunter

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    Wow that's a significant difference! Good catch.
     
  5. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    That's extraordinarily disheartening to see that that slipped under the radar for so long.
     
  6. tox

    tox SorriBarai
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    FatherKnowsBest Red Knight of Curmudgeon

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  9. HellLois

    HellLois What the Hell...Lois?
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    Yikes!!
    the correct one is in spanish. I change this mission to avoid the 5OP with the firts order.

    The correct version is the spanish one.
    so the mission objectives are:
    • To kill more Army Points than the adversary (3 Objective Points).
    • To kill the same amount of Lieutenants as the adversary (2 Objective Points, but only if at least 1 Lieutenant is killed by the player).
    • To kill more Lieutenants than the adversary (4 Objective Points).
    • To kill the Designated Target (2 Objective Points).
    • To kill the Designated Target with your DataTracker (1 extra Objective Points).
     
  10. RobertShepherd

    RobertShepherd Antipodean midwit

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    And there was much rejoicing. :)
     
  11. daboarder

    daboarder Force One Commander
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    provided the PDF get updated before next season.

    Can you imagine trying to explain to newer players that the scoring for a mission is that fundamentally different because of a forum post. "Shudder"
     
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  12. RobertShepherd

    RobertShepherd Antipodean midwit

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    Do we know how to page the guy that makes Comlog?
     
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  13. sevinkydink

    sevinkydink Well-Known Member

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    Yo?

    Also it's been updated in comlog.
     
  14. TheDiceAbide

    TheDiceAbide Thank you for your compliance.
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    That's great to hear, thanks @HellLois ! Think we could get that updated in the english PDF?
     
  15. Hachiman Taro

    Hachiman Taro Inverted gadfly

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    Thank you so much for fixing this @HellLois. It is very much appreciated.
     
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  16. RobertShepherd

    RobertShepherd Antipodean midwit

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    You're magnificent.
     
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  17. Musterkrux

    Musterkrux Well-Known Member

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    He is.
     
  18. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    Comlog: now more accurate than the PDF :)
     
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  19. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    I've already had to XD
     
  20. kghamilton

    kghamilton The_Omnishambles
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    While we’re on the subject of clarifying wording, could we get a definitive answer to the following situation regards “Killing”:

    Player A puts player B lieutenant into the unconscious state

    During player B tactical phase they nominate a new lieutenant

    Later, player B previous lieutenant is revived by a doctor.

    Later still, this model is placed back into the unconscious state by player A.

    At the end of the game does this count as an Lt kill?

    Thanks
     
    #20 kghamilton, May 6, 2019
    Last edited: May 6, 2019
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