Admittedly, scaling costs for skills are probably sorely needed in this game. Extremely synergistic combinations of skills probably need to be more expensive than the sum of their parts. Eg Shock Immunity should cost more than 1 point on models with NWI.
Fewer points for no smoke, obviously. Edit: let me elaborate. Factions with access to both MSV2 and Smoke are usually taking the smoke source anyways, for a trivial cost. Kuang Shi, Jaguars, Morlocks, Ghazi are all pitifully cheap and serve other roles besides “smoke source for my MSV2”. Although in recent sectorials it seems that CB is limiting access to smoke and MSV at the same time, so this example may be moot. Edit 2: Dahshat Company gets Rui Shis and lots of smoke, also core linked Brawler MSR. But Tunguska has no MSV2, Ramah may not have smoke for its Khawarij Mk12 and Muhktar Red Fury (still unknown...), IA and OSS have no smoke, even Onyx has no smoke. Seems that CB might be more careful about where the smoke trick is allowed, and factions that are already really good at gun fighting may not get it.
The Al Fasid HMG brings smoke along with his HMG, Normal LGL, mines, and heavy pistol. Carmen also brings smoke in both yeeted and launched forms.
The problem is that it's mixed in Infinity. Some stuff always costs the same, some stuff skales with stats/other Skills. Weapons for instance cost the same amount of points and SWC for Orcs and Swiss Guards. Other Skills like Camo scale with something, probably BS. Then you have Frenzy shaving off more points the more expensive you are. This works as core design as long as you make sure you pay the utility cost somewhere in the Faction. If you screw that up you get autopicks and too good and too bad Factions/Sectorials. Lately the existing combinations have been kind of saturated, so CB came up with a bunch of stuff outside the spectrum. It's all over the place , really. From perfectly optmized to completely lackluster. Worst offender are probably Full Auto and Fatality.
I've hoped for a while that PanO would get a discount on MSV2 and MSV3, due to the lack of smoke in the sectorial. No such luck though.
Msv is also awfully expensive as a counter to some of the cheapest skills and wargear in the game , considering mimetism is 1 point in a hell of a lot of profiles.... and I'd wager smoke grenades are in the free to 1 point range
“Yeeted” smoke. Damn kids these days. Yeah totally missed that, hope everyone enjoys seeing BS16 linked Mk12 super jump shooting through smoke.
True, although Duo and Haris only. Weirdly more mobile than the Khawarij, but both will be very dangerous. Ramah looks seriously cool and very dangerous indeed.
To be fair, from context it's pretty clear that's how he thinks it SHOULD work and not necessarily that he's claiming that it DOES work like that.
Correct. I really wish things would be costed in context (to the unit, to the faction) instead of a fixed cost. However it doesn’t seem likely to happen this edition.
LOL Ok, Haris for botls are what is really interesting. DropBears options (hopefully with recost) is also nice. CoC is a bit of ... strange ? surprisng ? I guess it will be NCA only, but if this is generic profile then Vanilla PanO just got nice boost! Bostria: "This is also happening in Foreign Company" Well we know why PanO CAN have nice things (because someone else needs them) ;P E/M Nades are gone but there is E/Mauler Aquila is getting FTO option (MR only) and WILDCART on that profile. Black Friar seems to also like to be friends, and thus are total WILDCART in NCA (eat that MO !). (but apparently they still suck at their job with Ayda Swanson being still alive on Neoterra... ) CB STAPH! CSU (together with Aquila and BF) in Fusilier links are too much! (OS links are suddenly even more miserable) On the other hand this absolutly static Fusilier link might now start moving mid-table.... In general quite nice and interesting changes, enabling some addtional playstyles. I'm worried about CSU getting into Fusilier but thats still fragile link....
Rifle+lsg bolt is now 20 points, 22 with the bears. Dropping by 2 and 3 points respectively. BSG Bolts swap E/M Grenades for Bears and is a point cheaper at 18. New KHD Bolt, both hackers have BSG and E/Maulers, loose E/M Grenades MSR gets MSV1 CoC and Haris profiles have bears. Otherwise: Multi rifle Aquila and Friar get Wildcard, as does Bipandra. CSUs count as Fusiliers.
That's a massive Improvement. Hacker is gone, E/M Grenades are gone. Say hello to Haris, CoC, AHD, KHD, MSV1 MSR and E/Mauler Drop Bears on BSG guy for 7 points less than old Drop Bear Profile. Bolts are very, very good with that change. Seems like CoC will spill to Vanilla since there is a noteable Lack of Asterisks and the AVA is 3 on that Profile. Aquila Multirifle Wildcard Blackfriar Albedo Wildcard Bipandra Wildcard CSU count as Fusiliers for Fireteam composition Hey Varuna, NCA says hi
For a moment I thought HMG Aquilla would be getting Wildcard, which would be hilarious. A great way to invalidate those new and improved Bolts right away. But is MR Aquilla, so who cares. I guess if you want to give an extra punch to a Fusi/Bolt link? But for ~60pts I'd rather give the BS15 guy a real gun. Where else am I going to spend those SWC anyway? Unless I was taking Swiss as the main attack piece and link Aquila as sort of an escort for the specialists in it.
