i remember the old good days when pheromare tactics level 1 is announced. how much we were happy those days by thinking level 2 would come. i am just now enjoying the final moments of vanilla.
Well, that was something I missed them. And it is pretty obvious, with the profile with / without symbiont armor. So yeah, that changes quite a bit, as they can take out Sakiel specialist place with the same resilience, but bringing much more to the table. The issue I had with them was them being so much more expensive withouth the 2nd wound ( that I somehow skipped over) Changed the original post to reflect that.
Its 16 points for a BS12 combi rifle that can surprise attack in a triad. It also allows you to go first when you really need to.
Pheroware Tactics L2 was being able to use the Tactic without blowing up a SymbioBomb. As it was already covered by the existing wording, it wasn't added as a separate Skill. In other words, you've already got it, on all units that list Pheroware Tactics.
I'm not sure about that Surprise Attack, as Holoprojector Lv1 doesn't give you the choice of deploying as a the Holoecho marker state.
Doh, got my 1s and 2s mixed up. I always thought holo 1 let you surprise attack. It's still 16 points for a BS12 linkable breaker combi, great for gunning down Ariadnans!
I´m a little surprised by the indifference to the Kiel-Saan. It gives Tohaa a Massed Armour Tactics option that didn´t exist before imho. ARM7 in cover with 4 wounds is much beefier than a top ARM4 Rasail which is the closest comparison for durability.
2 points more and you get a BS12 normal combi with two wounds. And for what Iwould need the breaker I usually have a K1 in my rooster. I don't say he is completely useless but can be considered only in edge cases.
Ectros does the same. Gorgos is much better for not that much of a price increase. Neither are really good. ARM prices are kinda inflated unless you are fighting Combi Rifle, the army. And that in a world that has more AP at every new release with the ubiqutous smg.
Well I've had great success with the Mowang. It's sort of the same concept, trades the mate for mimetism and has great CC capability. I want to try it, for sure.
Tohaa has always been massed armor tactics, whether or not you believe it. More wounds per point on 2W+ models than any other army. How many factions get 3 wounds for 21 points like a Kaeltar? or 2 wounds for just 18 like a Sakiel?
I hadn't considered a bomb on the impersonator. Pity almost every time I've used a bomb I've flubbed the roll and wished it was a mate instead, otherwise I might be excited. Does give him more game as an assassin though. Big boy really just feels like a Tohaa multiwounder for Spiral Corps, not something to be run in vanilla. Seriously has no game at all as far as I can tell and feels incredibly redundant.
Personnaly i don't use to hire those kind of big guys. If you want a fireteam with him in spiral, it will cost you a third of your amry point, and for the same price you can hire 2 clipsos or one fireteam in tohaa (Makaul+sakiel viral+kamael spe). Even if I'll give a try I think this kind of big guy is not as efficient as what you may have for the same price. When comparing to a good profil, like the rasail you see : it's more expensive (more than 50 versus 34-40), loose nanoscreen stuff, doesn't have access to viral, can't be an aggressive lieutenant able to have a good use of his lieutenant order. Ah and Rasail bring a chaksa ... And finally, his loadouts are nice, but really don't bring anything special. This profil is a bit dull. Personnal point of view.
I would not count him out, though. The Red Fury is a scary weapon and anything below 8“ will be in his Assault range, making this guy quite versatile when it comes to combat and killing. I could easily see him taking out more points than he's costing. That being said, he really lacks a LT profile and I could just as easily see him being a very expensive order monkey.
