Noone discussing NCA upcoming changes ?

The Hac Tao and Hisen make me jelly :l

 

I waa talking about usefullness of an Aquila.

 

Yes but the Aquila has to be in used with Sensor and Sniffers. Once senors reveals multiple camo markers, the Aquila has a much easier time with its hunt. The point is the Aquila is at its best when supported with other units.

 

If you're not trying to leverage MSV3, then Swiss is far superior option.

 

Nevermind.
Full Auto is part of the KB's Profile, the below numbers are wrong.
The best choice to take out a Kamau MSR at HMG rangebands is a Kriza Borac HMG.

Spoiler

http://inf-dice.ghostlords.com/n3/?p1.faction=Nomads&p1.unit=Kriza+Boracs,+Special+Crisis+Unit&p1.w_type=W&p1.type=HI&p1.cc=18&p1.bs=13&p1.ph=14&p1.wip=13&p1.arm=5&p1.bts=6&p1.w=2&p1.w_taken=0&p1.symbiont=0&p1.operator=0&p1.immunity=&p1.hyperdynamics=0&p1.ikohl=0&p1.ch=0&p1.msv=0&p1.marksmanship=0&p1.xvisor=0&p1.fatality=0&p1.full_auto=2&p1.surprise=0&p1.action=bs&p1.weapon=HMG&p1.stat=BS&p1.ammo=Normal&p1.b=4&p1.dam=15&p1.range=16-32/+3&p1.link=3&p1.viz=0&p1.ma=0&p1.guard=0&p1.protheion=0&p1.nbw=0&p1.gang_up=0&p1.coordinated=0&p1.cover=3&p1.misc_mod=0&p2.faction=PanOceania&p2.unit=Kamau+Amphibious+Intervention+Teams+(MSV+2)&p2.w_type=W&p2.type=LI&p2.cc=15&p2.bs=13&p2.ph=11&p2.wip=13&p2.arm=1&p2.bts=6&p2.w=1&p2.w_taken=0&p2.symbiont=0&p2.operator=0&p2.immunity=shock&p2.hyperdynamics=0&p2.ikohl=0&p2.ch=-3&p2.msv=2&p2.marksmanship=0&p2.xvisor=0&p2.fatality=0&p2.full_auto=0&p2.surprise=0&p2.action=bs&p2.weapon=MULTI+Sniper+Rifle+(Anti-Materiel+Mode)&p2.stat=BS&p2.ammo=DA&p2.b=1&p2.dam=15&p2.range=16-48/+3&p2.link=5&p2.viz=0&p2.ma=0&p2.guard=0&p2.protheion=0&p2.nbw=0&p2.gang_up=0&p2.coordinated=0&p2.cover=3&p2.misc_mod=-3

Kriza Boracs, Special Crisis Unit - HMG vs. Kamau Amphibious Intervention Teams (MSV 2) - MULTI Sniper Rifle (Anti-Materiel Mode)
Active Player
54.62% Kriza Boracs, Special Crisis Unit inflicts 1 or more wounds on Kamau Amphibious Intervention Teams (MSV 2) (Unconscious)
23.03% Kriza Boracs, Special Crisis Unit inflicts 2 or more wounds on Kamau Amphibious Intervention Teams (MSV 2) (Dead)

Failures
27.49% Neither player succeeds
Reactive Player
17.89% Kamau Amphibious Intervention Teams (MSV 2) inflicts 1 or more wounds on Kriza Boracs, Special Crisis Unit (1 W)
6.02% Kamau Amphibious Intervention Teams (MSV 2) inflicts 2 or more wounds on Kriza Boracs, Special Crisis Unit (Unconscious)
0.73% Kamau Amphibious Intervention Teams (MSV 2) inflicts 3 or more wounds on Kriza Boracs, Special Crisis Unit (Dead)

 

Agreed.
The whole point of having an Aquila is to be able to walk up one side of the field and clear midfield Camo in a crossfire.
Bringing and deploying a Sensor net on top certainly loses some of it's value. If I was planning to take on mass Camo with Sensor I'd probably reveal them and then drop a Garuda in their back to shoot them unopposed if possible.

 

It's not, actually. The above examples were flawed, Kamau was given additional -3 against Kriza on top of what Full Auto was doing. But the difference isn't that great, especially considering point investment.

 

You're right, my bad.
Toadchild seems to have rolled Full Auto into the KB's Profiles like he does for MSVs.
Here are the correct numbers:

Kriza Boracs, Special Crisis Unit - HMG vs. Kamau Amphibious Intervention Teams (MSV 2) - MULTI Sniper Rifle (Anti-Materiel Mode)
Active Player
42.54% Kriza Boracs, Special Crisis Unit inflicts 1 or more wounds on Kamau Amphibious Intervention Teams (MSV 2) (Unconscious)
15.01% Kriza Boracs, Special Crisis Unit inflicts 2 or more wounds on Kamau Amphibious Intervention Teams (MSV 2) (Dead)

Failures
28.44% Neither player succeeds
Reactive Player
29.02% Kamau Amphibious Intervention Teams (MSV 2) inflicts 1 or more wounds on Kriza Boracs, Special Crisis Unit (1 W)
10.08% Kamau Amphibious Intervention Teams (MSV 2) inflicts 2 or more wounds on Kriza Boracs, Special Crisis Unit (Unconscious)
1.66% Kamau Amphibious Intervention Teams (MSV 2) inflicts 3 or more wounds on Kriza Boracs, Special Crisis Unit (Dead)

 

So! when will NCA get it's new updates? So! far, the crap that CB is dragging out is just a bunch N2 crap.

 

We'll probably quietly get our update on the 27th. The fact that it hasn't been mentioned in a video just means it's going to be a modest update imo.

 

I hope so, but I can't stop feeling like there will be no updates for NCA.

 

I found Camo/TO Camo/ODD/Mimetism to be quite proliferate. I usually take an Aquila in one of the two lists and name that one "Bullying Ariadna".

Although I admit I simply have more experience with Aquila since he was one of the early PanO things I got while I only got Swiss with Beyond Icestorm and I haven't played PanO in a while (most recently I played CHA in an escalation league of all things).

 

The latest video did show that Bolts are getting Haris, hopefully that comes over to NCA too.

 

Against Ariadna? undisputed, he's a great choice.

The thing about those skills are, granted they are powerful, but generally in an opponents army they're only on 2-3 units that actually matter. You don't need MSV3 to kill those flash pulse bots that have mimetism, you don't need MSV3 to kill your opponent's combi Dakini. Chances are you don't even need MSV1 to stop these troopers.

 

They are also a great way to find out that Scouts can be armed with E/Maulers by the way

 

There will be an update, it’s simply a matter of how much fanfare they unveil it with.

 

It just figures that the first functional (read: not extortionately expensive) CoC in PanO (close enough) is in a Sectorial flooded with cheap veteran troopers.
But yeah, that looks awesome, and if Bolts do get an addition, we can hope it carries over to NCA.

 

also first Multi Marksman