Ramah Proxies

Old skinny Janns would go perfectly as Hortlaks, I think.

 

That LE Merc/Bounty Hunter in heavy armor, too.



The really old Janns from N1 don't actually look that out of place next to the new ones, a little more rounded and a little shorter, but within human variation. It's the late N2 Jann with a rifle and sword that is way too skinny, but sculpt a cloak over him and he makes a good Ayyar.

I usually raid another faction entirely for proxies, to make it absolutely clear that whatever model is NOT what it looks like. This worked better when there weren't any multi-faction NA2 groups out there...

My rules of thumb for proxying were 1) that the model needed to look like it had the armor level of it's profile so that the opponent could have an idea how hard it was to kill, and 2) have a weapon that was correct for the profile so that I could remember what it was shooting with!

 

Here are some of my early thoughts (somewhat biased by what I have):

Hortlak Janissary - Govad Sniper and Govad Rifle (sorry no SMG)

Namurr - Hassassin Fiday from Beyond Red Veil or Hassassin Barid Hacker

Mukhtar - Ayyar, Zhayedan, maybe cube jager merc, a little further out Oniwaban or Shikami

 

A range of Nomad units look pretty similar to what we can see on Mukhtar concept. Making me dislike that concept, being honest...

 

Do agree with that, I'm not impressed with the Mukhtar concept art either. Insufficiently Haqqislamite.

I'd use Bandits to proxy them.

 

Yeah...the Mukhtars lack an Arabic vibe for my taste. For the start I guess Muyibs will fit as a proxy or Govads. But i hope the real models will convince me.

For the Hortlak the old Janissary and Asawiras will do fine.

The Namurr is a little harder...

 

Well, tbh most of our stuff lack that vibe. But Mukhtars also lack that gritty, modern tacticool aesthetics which seems to be another RTF theme as well.

 

Jup...he looks like he is going to a 21st century party rather than on a mission.

 

For the Namurr I’ll be using the new Odalisque spitfire. I don’t play enough QK, but I love the model and in my head the Namurr feels like a super Odalisque anyway. Alternatively the two old Asawira have the same guns and are holding ccws, I already have one of each painted, and they have that light assault piece look.

Govad sniper for the new Janissary immediately came to mind, and I’m glad I’m not the only one.

As for the Mukhtar I’m going to be using the new Khawarij if I don’t already have them in a list. The Mukhtar concept art looks too nomads to me, and I want something that just oozes Haqq design instead. There’s already a doctor w/bsg and the mk12 has a visor like the red fury. I’ll use a Lasiq for the viral rifle Mukhtar cause it’s our only one, but I do like the idea of using an Ayyar and saying his 2 pistols are 2 nanopulsars though

 

The Mukhtar is a merc who just happens to have a Haqq shotgun and a Haqq logo on his dossier. He looks so out of place that he reverses my dislike of proxies as 90% of decent proxy options will look more like a Mukhtar than the actual Mukhtar.

 

It's true, I never would've guessed that Haqq was dumping so much money into the development of tactical hoodies

 

Khawarijs and Zhayedans would make a proxy good Mukhtar or Namurr.

If you do like the Mukhtar art, I guess Raoul Specter is pretty much as close as you can get for 'guy with shotgun wearing hoodie and pajamas'

 

On the topic of proxies, how do the old Asawira models stand up scale wise to the new N3 sculpts? Thanks!

 

The new Asawira w/ Spitfire is huge, specifically the legs are very spread out and flying off the base (in my case). I don't mind the new sculpt at all, but I prefer the scale and pose of the old Asawira. Especially the rifle

 

The old Asawira date from the "Latex paint power armour" era of mid to late 2nd edition. The rifle model is really awesome with a great pose, but in terms of absolute size they're a touch smaller than current LI like a Ghulam.

 

I don't have the models in front of me, but if memory serves the new Spitfire is more in line size-wise with the newer spitfire design (Odalisque, Muyib, Khawarij) depite being on a larger unit. Definitely less box-y atleast imo. The old one is very big especially compared with how small the body is

Edit: side by side of both Asawira w/ S2 marker for scale

 

The Mukhtar would probably look better if his mask was like other Haqqislam troopers. His current one is just a bit too smooth for my tastes.
Mukhtar and Namurr are both a bit too smooth compared to other Haqq troops if that makes sense. It does fit that whole 6-2 movement GOTTA GO FAST I guess.
But my biggest issue with them is the fact they didn't get cool coats like other RTF troops. Even the Ghulam doctor resculpt and the new Janissary got one!

I'll probably proxy Ayyars as Mukhtars and Avicenna as a Namurr until they get miniatures of their own. Maybe the Husam spec ops for the Hortlak Janissary. The sculpt has a closed mask head option and plenty of pockets.

 

I'm going to be 'That Guy' and point out that the height difference is within normal human variation, though. And the Spitfire looks to be about the same size, so good enough for me.

 

Alright, I have cleaned up my proxy list a bit:

Horlak Janissaries: Govad Sniper and converted Govad Hacker

Mukhtar: Both Ayyars and converted Bashi Bazouks (both have the hoods but a more Haqq look)

Namurr: Anaconda pilot and Saladin (had to find a way to get Saladin into RTF :)...the back-up is still a converted Fiday w/ Rifle from Beyond Red Veil