Lets assume for a minute that spiral company didn't exist. If they just added some units to Tohaa and chucked them into the NA2 slots. Would that really be that much of a negative? It doesn't change your day to day play of Tohaa. In the Campaigns you'd be working with other NA2 armies so thats more of a chance to 'win'. Doesn't really seem like a big deal to me. But then I also sort of figured we'd never see a Tohaa Sectorial.
That's not the point and you very much know it. You posting anywhere, whether it's red text or not, is effectively considered by the community as a "warning". Especially when directed at a single person.
That is not true but to make it even more clear the moderation colouration was selected. In any case it is an advice, you have the right to have your opinion, regardless of me agreeing with it or not, but the way you express it does not help convince other people about it, you are maybe a bit more aggressive than you should.
Why are they effectively NA2? You can still play the Tohaa faction without issue except for some discontinued models. Thats still a lot of units you can use. I do hope Tohaa will eventually get rescuplts for the discontinued line.
Are you seriously going to try to say that people don't lend more weight to your posts or those of a WarCor because of the title under your name? Because that's outright incorrect.
No, which is why I'm asking the question. I'm not saying anyone is wrong to be angry. I just don't understand. I assume the discontinue models are all key models to Tohaa. I know the MSV 2 units and AD troop are being discontinued which sucks.
When their core starter set, several infantry boxes, and blisters that are more or less "must haves" for Triads are going? Yeah.
Ectros Regiment - Only S2 HI option Gao-Rael Unit - Only MSV2 option and most used Sniper Gao-Tarsos Unit - Only proper AD option Gorgos Squad - Only TAG Kamael Light Infantry - Our base LI unit that our Spec Ops has been based on (which is changing) Kotail Mobile Unit - Only Holo2 Superjump Option Makaul Troops - Only Warband and Eclipse Smoke Nikoul Ambush Unit - Only Viral Sniper and second most used Sniper Sakiel Regiment - Cost effective durable LI Sukeul Commandos - Best shooter in the army
So basically the core Tohaa units are all being phased out for these new sectorial units. So effective you have to buy an all new faction. Ok, that sucks. I mean, the old units you have are still legal it just sucks for new players. Sorry, these scuplts don't exist anymore so you can't play the same army I do without proxy. It would be like if Intruders + interventers + tomcats/hellcats were phased out of Nomads.
I'm not sure that playing tohaa is a requirement to comment on the situation. If you already play Tohaa you now have a window to grab any models you feel are required. Frankly I understand cbs decision and them taking the time to put together the video is also a positive step. However I am still concerned that the communication channels via the warcor program are a bit muddy. Rules and profiles being discussed in private is one thing but material changes should be available to all at the same time imo.
Ok, here is an example list for a tournament, red is now gone. Spoiler: List Spam-2 ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 10 3 SUKEUL HMG, D-Charges / Pistol, Breaker Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 35) SAKIEL Combi Rifle, Light Rocket Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 23) KOSUIL Engineer K1 Combi Rifle, D-Charges, Nullifier / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 29) MAKAUL Heavy Flamethrower, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, Viral CCW. (0 | 13) MAKAUL Heavy Flamethrower, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, Viral CCW. (0 | 13) MAKAUL Heavy Flamethrower, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 13) KAMAEL Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) KAMAEL (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13) KAELTAR (Chain of Command) Light Shotgun, Flash Pulse + 2 SymbioMates / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 21) CHAKSA AUXILIAR (Baggage, Sensor) Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 10) GROUP 2 4 1 GAO-RAEL Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CCW. (1 | 31) SUKEUL Missile Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Breaker Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 36) KAELTAR (Chain of Command) Light Shotgun, Flash Pulse + 2 SymbioMates / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 21) CLIPSOS (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25) DIPLOMATIC DELEGATE (iKohl L1, Specialist Operative) Nanopulser, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5) 6 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army And I haven't found any replacement in the new units for these gone models.
On the bright side, discontinued units are still tournment legal, the profiles are legal. So you can still use that list if you have the models. Its more an issue that it cripples any interest for new players getting into proper Tohaa. New players are likely only to buy the spiral army because thats where the new shiny models are. Similar to how interest in Pano's shock army is going to be dead because the range is discontinued.
I'm really surprised that they are discontinuing the models fo rthe nikoul and sukeul, they are relatively new and very nice models. I agree that most everything else could use a resculpt, I've been using fraacta as proxies since I started playing.
Guys, please give CB some time to explain the situation. They are currently rolling out a lot of marketing and production information to introduce new products and explain the narrative direction of the universe. The list of discountinued SKUs is just meant for distributors and does not necessarily indicate that models or units are being phased out. These could be repackaged or resculpted. Either have faith or have patience because this will be explained.
What is wrong with all of you. I haven't said no word like that. Is my answer provoking? Yes. Yeah! And I will get nothing new for my army like the last year (or better, as long as I play Infinity). Most of the new models from the sectorial seems to be no good addition to "vanilla" Tohaa If you are not effected yourself, it is always easy to make such comments.
No they are phased out, Koni stated that in the other topic. There will be no repacks or resculpts in the near future. Edit: There's the post https://forum.corvusbelli.com/threads/a-new-box-guys-cool.27344/page-14#post-220962
