HB: Ayyar w/Emitter

the SMR good against "spam" armies. Unfortunatly it othen every army right now. but if you expect somthing Heavy - could use RL+E/mitter

 

I was just looking at him for going against him lol. He seems like a HI & TAG hunter. The big thing is the Surprise Shot L2. So if you are going to use the 1 burst E/Mitter, that's when you want to use it. Then followed up by the DEP. So great against those armies and not so great for hordes. Then the Shock is great.

 

He F's up HI links. Bad.

If I know I'm going to be playing PanO or Yu Jing with my HB, I try to bring this guy. More than anything though, he's a lot of fun to use. If you're worried about a spammy list and a TAG, He can still be worth it, but requires more careful play.

 

Never even tried it. I don't get much success with my Ayyar. :(

Couple of things to remember with holoprojector 2. Like camo, you can Move - They delay - Move again - Delayed ARO is lost if not revealed. This should allow you to cover much more ground than expected. So I'd expect you want to skirt around and shoot with the rifle against soft targets, and when the heavy infantry and/or remotes show up you can zap them (preferably from behind!). E/M2 is 2 saves at 1/2 of the BTS value.

 

You can also get up nice and close to viral pistol anyone who thinks they’re a tough customer. (But not quite HI).

 

I've done that once or twice with a Druze. It's not terribly impressive and I doubt one more die would make it so. ;)

 

I’ve had a ton of success with it.

 

Hello,

last year I did a lot of use of this profile. Against "horde type lists" don't really matter if you are using the shock marskaman rifle or only the rifle. Both have the same burst and damage, only changes the ranges.

The E/Mitter profile is a wonderfull tool because allow you to hunt some heavy stuff, or stop in ARO a really important troup fron the enemy. And with the Rifle and most with the Viralpistols he can put dow almost any target. Emitter/DEP to stop heavy stuff, Rifle or Viral pistols to put down light things.

To me the Ayar secret resides in "be pacient". The Ayar is in most of the cases a second turn troup. You can cover him in the first steps of the game as other profile thanks to the Holo L1, like a HMG Govad or a Barid Assault Hacker Device. If you rival don't know exactly the cost of the hassasin profiles, and most players don't do it, probably they will be deceive. Or you could have confident in the Holoechos L2.

Later, when the game is advanced the Ayar has more chances to find a free spot where to go and make some damage. The Emitter profile is the "swiss knife" (Not really sure if this is the definition). You can use it actively or as a surpresive and dangerous ARO piece, because no one wants to be shot with a DEP or a Emitter, less if this ARO is unexpected.

If I play Limited Insertion at least one of my list have the E/Mitter profile. And if not LI, them I usually play him in the second group with the Muttas, because when all the impetuous are dead, probably I have a spot in the main group and I can move him for free and use it. In the "mid game".

Best regards

 

Well, Druze don't have Surprise Shot Lvl2. Those three dice will be very hard to contest within 8".

 

It is not worth it. Just use ragik Ass hacker if you fear HI or mutts the Best unit in the game :).
I however run the SMR version alot he Can really do Work if you know how to use him

 

I agree.
E/Mitter makes sense in two cases only: unopposed roll, or count-for-your-luck ARO.
Same with DEP.

Which makes for a pricely-ish HI with two very situational weapons and just a plain Rifle. Compared to Shock Marksman Rifle it loses range benefit and the Shock effect (which is no trifle asset when facing single-wound V:Dogged / NWI targets, quite popular these days!), while gaining two very situational ARO weapons.

And up close both of them can always rely on their twin Viral Pistols.

 

I'am agree the SMR is more generic and has more use than the profile with DEP+E/Mitter, but when playing Limited Insertion the E/Mitter has big chances to put down big targets. Only you, guys, give it a chance :)

Probably, If I will play LI I will include the E/Mitter profile. If not, the SMR. The profile which I really don't see any good use is the snipper profile.

 

Frankly, I'm not sure I'd take B1 weapon over B3+ weapon to take down big targets, LI or not. I always consider B1 guns as ARO things. If you can't win more reliably, the only thing you can do is to make it hurt more when you do. But relying on Ayyar in reactive is questionable idea.

...I should run a calc, I guess.

 

The Sniper does acceptably well as an ARO sniper. He lacks the added layer of Surprise Shot, but he still has Holo L2 and ARM 3 W 2 for survival.

 

And that puzzles the hell out of me.

 

I guess CB conisdered that to be too powerful (and way outclassing the poor Lasiq anyway!) in their playtesting.

 

Don't forget that the Holoecho state granted by Holoprojector level 2 gives you Surprise Shot level 1.

 

Which is exactly why I was talking about the added layer of it on the two non-Sniper profiles, who have Surprise Shot L2.