Spoiler: Off-topic I am very annoyed how CB made things for Operation Subsection. In particular Yadu have been high on my complaint list because they take up "big unit" release slot yet provide no synergy to rest of the sectorial and are too expensive for a unit that does nothing well and a few things meh. And more specifically, I kept saying so when people asked what we thought about Yadu, and then people who never play them start complaining about me saying bad things about them. As it turns out... https://forum.corvusbelli.com/threads/teach-me-the-basics-of-oss-rambo-ing.26731/page-3#post-208866
Maybe we can trade with OSS? Bolts for Yadus? Yadus are just upgraded Bolts, after all :P Anyway, what's with the level of salt in this thread? I can speculate too - CB will cut the Swiss' legs (So MOV 2-2 now) and give them to him as a Throwing Weapon, Disposable (2), Shock Ammo - but this stopped being actually funny after the first ten times or so. They did a good job with the newest armies and units, tweaks to existing ones were fine - though they could go further for sure - so I expect NCA to be more of the same; fixing some problems and making sectorial a bit more flexible and fun to play, but still leaving some of the issues and not introducing anything really new or game changing.
As far as I'm concerned, you can just take Yadus and keep 'em. As for my comments on Swiss, I'm surprised people haven't realised I'm just making fun of CB. I honestly don't have a stake in this whole deal, I just like to make fun of the fact they gave bikes to Montessas but kept Teutons the same. :D
Yeah, CB's approach can be described as taking two steps forward, one backward, and then awkwardly toddling in place. It still counts as at least one step forward ;)
Just because there is *some* progress, doesn't mean we shouldn't call them out for not enough. Frankly, they phoned in everything except Dart for OperationS, and I suspect it's because they simply don't care. They had other things they're interested in.
They did, as evidenced by people largely ignoring your insistent comments or bringing up leg-throwing profile in response. Trust me, you aren't too subtle here. Edit: I'm not against shitting on CB in general, even as prophylactics, and I get that some people are upset about removal of perfectly playable unit in favour of an experiment that is completely different in what it does, and I understand that in the context of OSS specifically Yadu are less interesting that they could've been in a different army, but I find a claim about OSS being trash pretty far-fetched. Granted, I'm bad at the game, so there's that.
Nah, I like the new MO. It's not perfect, but definitely better. Teutons and sniper BF are my only problems there right now ;) edit: oh, and Santiagos losing BS. This is that one step backwards I was talking about :P
I never said OSS were trash; people seem to assume that when they don't bother to read my comments. What I said is they gave us things OSS either doesn't need (Yadu, linkable Asuras), game doesn't need (E/M templates, K1 ammo), or don't play well with rest of the sectorial (Rudras Red Fury, expensive Yadu as main linkers). And what we did get that's useful tends to be boring (Cyberdancers being so limited in application and boring to use, etc). On the other hand, Dakinis got 0 new profiles, Garudas still have neither specialist option nor Super Jump, no Smoke whatsoever, etc. Deva got a few nice bones but Hacker is still unusable. Still no good access to create repeater network. OSS changes are a disappointment because it's so dull, not because it's trash. That's why I say CB phoned it in, they did the minimum needed to get us something, but 0 creativity and bother to actually make things interesting. Not to mention all the minor stupidities, like 5 points too expensive ML bot, or Shakti getting Sucker Punch because +1 dmg in reactive? Really? Why bother? Anyway, sorry for derailing the thread. But I don't think OSS is bad power-wise, I just think they made a whole series of bad choices when designing them because they don't care.
@Nemo No Name You know that this Samekh has a Flash pulse, right? You pay 5 points more so that this is the only ML REM that has no weak range from 8" to 40". I find this pretty strong for a ARO unit. The fact that an Apsara can improve it passively or that a lone programm will make it even more powerful make me think you pay for something good. As for PanO sectorial changes of 3O, I think too that they stopped just before the hype meets the reality. Rao being the only Wildcard of the sectorial, no drone in FT, no change or new profile for Singh and Rao are the things that make ASA a nice sectorial while not being the neverending hype train VIRD is. The fact that making lists in MO is the challenge of the year is what hold some to jump in this sectorial now and those have been done by not doing some small things made elsewhere. That is the funny and sad part. CB always stops a step too early. Maybe those will change in the future but still, it is a shame. And I'm sure this will be the same for NCA. We'll have some interesting changes but I don't think we'll have more than the bare minimum. I'm waiting more than anything. If things go in the way I wish, I'll take my ticket for the hype train again. I really prefer my NCA over VIRD tbh. I just want to be able to do more crazy and daring things than I am today.
You know that it doesn't? That Flash Pulse was an early mistake in PDF. Not to mention that in no universe would that be worth 5 points. You do know we have access to Dakini Snipers? I think you'll find no-one in Aleph takes Samekh ML because it's really isn't that good. Anyway, again, I'm just pointing this out as an example of CB phoning it in. By itself, not a big deal. Even if it cost 17 points it wouldn't be worth it vast majority of time.
You should have checked the spanish to see that it does. Just like there was a mistake with the Kamau HRL which was labelled with a LGL in English for a long time. Yes, you have Dakini Sniper but it is not as frightening and unforgiving against multiwound units and doesn't have the Wildcard trooper rule.
Only Spanish has it, neither English nor French does. So I'm gonna go with they don't have it. But even if it does, still no worth 5 points. Wildcard is only as valuable as the trooper and the links. No other links worth including a Missile Launcher anyway. Dakini Sniper is much better at actually winning the range fights, not to mention is even more useful in active turn and even costs a point less.
And Army will still print you a Flash pulse in the weapons if it is the only one to have it. I'm wondering why... and the French version is the worst of all. It is the least supported of the three regarding of mistakes in the datas. I know it for sure as I'm French. For example, Thorakitai have Spitfire in French while every English and Spanish players know they have HMG instead.
