Prone in close combat

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  1. Arkhos94

    Arkhos94 Well-Known Member

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    My opponent and I had the following situation yesterday :

    My Morlock declare move and end up base to base with my opponent Mobile Brigada

    My opponent Jaguar (prone at this time) declare engage

    My Morlock declare a CC attack on the Mobile Brigada and E/M it. The jaguar pass his engage roll and end up engaged with my morlock.

    Next turn, my opponent Jaguar declare CC attack on my morlock. (the morlock did the same and won)


    The Jaguar was prone at the start.

    Question : can he stays prone once he is engaged ? Can he stays prone while performing a CC attack ?

    It's counterintuitive to have a crawling Jaguar fighting in CC but I didn't find a point in the prone, engaged or CC attack page that prevent it
     
  2. daboarder

    daboarder Force One Commander
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    yes he is prone
     
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  3. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Prone has no rules regarding close combat, so it offers no advantages nor disadvantages.
     
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  4. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    Yes. You can be both Prone and Engaged.
     
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  5. Arkhos94

    Arkhos94 Well-Known Member

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    Ok I have my answer. I have trouble imaging it but rules are rules
     
  6. daszul

    daszul Well-Known Member

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    "Ahhh, he might attack me...!"
    "Don't worry, that Jaguar is prone..."

    [​IMG]

    (Well, it's a leopard, but anyways...)
     
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  7. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    That's because the Jaguar would be prone on top of the building in HD. ;)
     
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  8. Gunmage

    Gunmage General Contact Unit

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    Here's how it would work IRL.
     
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  9. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    I have seen a few models both prone on rooftops engage in some Brazilian Jiu Jitsu to avoid taking sniper fire from both teams while the melee is resolved.
     
  10. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    90% of MMA is sweaty dickpunching on the floor if you want help imagining it :P
     
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  11. oldGregg

    oldGregg Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, most fights go to ground in one way, shape or form. You don’t usually want to be the only one on the ground, but I’ve never had an issue with this in game terms.
     
  12. Wombat85

    Wombat85 Well-Known Member

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    Full discloser: I was a bouncer, I cant count the number of bar fights and brawls I have been involved in but its easily in the 100's. Going to ground, even if you pull someone down with you is literally a death sentence unless you can get back up before someone who is standing sees your down and come and cracks your head like an eggshell. The move where the hero is down and manages to trip up the opponent, get a shot off or some other blow as the bad guy bears down on them is a construction of fiction, real fights where real people die dont allow this to happen
     
  13. oldGregg

    oldGregg Well-Known Member

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    Hey I was a bouncer too!!! (A long, long time ago). You're absolutely right. In that environment, (Or most public environments), the ground is the last place you want to be.

    That said, a lot of combat drilling is about taking your opponent down, (so they are on the ground), or training for what to do in the inevitable circumstance in which you find yourself on the ground. When I said a lot of fights end up on the ground, I meant they end with at least one person going to ground and the other finishing it. I don't have stats or anything like that to back this up, but I have plenty of personal experiences to draw my conclusions from. (From the military, to bouncing, all the way back to grade school).

    sneaking up to someone on your belly, while they're looking at you, would never happen lol. But it's a game with a lot of depth. If I started asking for in depth melee rules, I'd probably lose myself in the complexity before I ended up enjoying it.
     
  14. toadchild

    toadchild Premeasure

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    Note also that being prone halves your normal movement speed, but has no effect on your dodge movement and engage ranges.
     
  15. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    I'm just saying, but my Crane Agent has a long sharp-edged metal sticks that somehow is also mildly explosive. The Crane is also very highly trained in its use. Not sure how well Jiu-jitsu manages against sharp-edged metal sticks...
     
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  16. Sabin76

    Sabin76 Well-Known Member

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    All I know is that guns work pretty well against bananas...

    [​IMG]
     
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  17. Thaddius

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    The ankle tap is trained by PanO forces in the game of Thugby
     
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