Dear Guijia, you are pointless

Discussion in 'Yu Jing' started by Mahtamori, Nov 30, 2018.

  1. ObviousGray

    ObviousGray Frenzied Mushroom

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    Frankly I would love a HGL option on Guijia. At least, then he'll pair up with Zhencha quite well
     
  2. Barrogh

    Barrogh Well-Known Member

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    "It's not your list, it's you who made it".

    OT: So I guess "give new rules to everything" requests keep being a thing :P
     
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  3. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Guijia has been featured before as being... meh... and in need of a fix. Now we've got a theme on IA when previously it was a theme of the usual suspects (very often mimetism)
     
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  4. Weathercock

    Weathercock Well-Known Member

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    It's a good paperweight, but good god, it's hard to look at such a beautiful model and know it has no place on the table. The fact that they actually made it even more irrelevant, not less, with the update was such a kick to the head, and the sorest spot of the update.

    I can accept the Zhanshi being trash, we should all be pretty adept at avoiding using them at all costs anyway. But the Guijia is supposed to be one of those models you build around, and there is absolutely no reason to build anything around it.
     
  5. atomicfryingpan

    atomicfryingpan Well-Known Member

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    I mean I've killed things before with with a bs14 damagme 16 multi hmg. That isn't exactly garbage...
     
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  6. Kallas

    Kallas Vincible

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    Its constituent parts when considered in isolation are fine, but as a whole it's not great for the cost and downsides.
     
  7. atomicfryingpan

    atomicfryingpan Well-Known Member

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    The downsides being what? It's big and expensive? Things in the game are allowed to have downsides. It's what makes it interesting. Like the zhencha not being able to tank mines, that's a downside that you play around. Not everything has to be amazing with no downsides. Otherwise we end up with crazy power creep. If you like the model, use it. Is it the best gunfighter the sectorial could bring? No definitely not. Is it the worst gunfighter? Also no definitely not. It's fast, durable, and in the active turn can put the hurt on people. Just like most of the other offensive oriented units in the game.
     
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  8. Maksimas

    Maksimas Heavy Infantry Addict Maxim

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    Would be cool if they had a Duo TBH.
    Then we could have a Hai Dao follow it about for repairs Druze Scarface and Cordelia style.
     
  9. Fire@Will

    Fire@Will Well-Known Member

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    The last thing I was to see is the Collosification of Infinity...
     
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  10. Pierzasty

    Pierzasty Null-Space Entity

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    Yes. One that can actually link and use the Tac Awr.
     
  11. Maksimas

    Maksimas Heavy Infantry Addict Maxim

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    Not being in a link doesn't make Tactical Awareness all that worse TBH.
    It's still essentially 3 points ( And an occasional SWC, it seems. ) for an extra order only that unit can use.
    It's a great deal if ya ask me.
     
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  12. Death

    Death Well-Known Member

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    This is a suggestion I can actually support. It doesn't power creep the Guijia, sorry Yu Jing is the HI faction not the TAG faction, but it does a provide a nice little buff to Guijia usefulness restricted to a sectorial.
     
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  13. Andre82

    Andre82 Well-Known Member

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    The Guijia can definitely kick in teeth with it's good speed and armor. However, I have never much cared for expensive tags. They are terrain dependent and such a significant loss when they die that I feel you get more bang for your buck with other tools. The fact it can also betray you is also something of an issue for me.
    With the other options on the table I don't see me reaching for the Guijia as the best tool for the job very often.
     
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  14. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    As much as I would have loved it. now that it's out, it's going to be a few years before we see any change. We just gotta live with what we have. As boring as it is.

    That was Pre-ITS missions that requited certain types of troops.
     
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  15. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Tac Awr doesn't require a fireteam.
     
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  16. Balewolf

    Balewolf It's all opinion

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    I think all TAGs should be given Tactical Awareness in the next ITS document (or before) like they have all been given Fatality lvl1. I think it would really boost their play-ability and offset the high points in one model compared to a fire team.
     
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  17. armazingerz

    armazingerz Well-Known Member

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    We just want one single good tag. Haqq, Nomads, Ca, even Japanese have better TAGs than us, and they aren't PanO either.
     
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  18. Pierzasty

    Pierzasty Null-Space Entity

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    It does. The current PDF text is copied from the NCO skill and I'd expect it to disappear any day. Definitely faster than my Guijia gets painted.
     
  19. Henshini

    Henshini Well-Known Member

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    It can be used in a fire team but it's not exclusive to it. It's just an extra irregular order for that model.
     
  20. archon

    archon Well-Known Member

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    I totaly agree with Mahtamori - the Guijia is too beautiful to hide in IA. The suggestion for TA & NCO or at least Lt. 2 is great. I too think, that our one and only MBT aka 0815 TAG needs a lilttle push to be choosen even in this sectorial. I would be happy with the usual upgrades "mimetism and a smg" ;.) but hey - extra orders will make it.

    Maybe CB thought like that: Let´s put the Guijia in here, because we showed it in the manga, but leave it as it is, maybe no one will notice, because: Who takes a TAG in a HI Sectorial? Let´s wait until White Banner.

    Please: Make Guijia great again - Raicho gets a gift, even the Squalo has recieved gifts ...
    how about EM-Immunity?
     
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