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Discussion in 'PanOceania' started by Zsimbi, Nov 29, 2018.

  1. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    At this time we'll have even more problems by listing the ability for some units, and not listing it for the others.

    Out of curiosity - what stops CB from moving note about this? Unless there's something we don't know it shouldn't take more than a few hours and a single person.
     
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  2. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    You really dont want to hear IT stories "why you cannot do that? That's simple thing, you just have to ...." .

    Code is magic, and joke about a mage and "demon/lemon" is really true.
     
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  3. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    A ha ha ha. :sob:

    Due to the way data is structured in Army, there are several thousand unit entries, and none of them have the full Fireteam info. You're talking about restructuring the DB schema, redesigning and recoding the web, mobile and desktop UIs, with a DB where the data is entered semi-manually and is not always consistent. Some coding work I'm doing at the moment may help in the long run, but it's not guaranteed, and is not short-term.

    EDIT - sorry, I think I misread, did you mean 'remove' not 'move'? Yes that would be much faster.
     
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  4. Thaddius

    Thaddius Well-Known Member

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  5. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    @ijw: Heh, I was suspecting I'm wrong about that particular estimation :P But my point stands.
     
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  6. CabalTrainee

    CabalTrainee Well-Known Member

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    Even a link in army to the fireteam lists on the wiki would help. That at least should be achievable
     
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  7. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Wrong.

    You estimate basing on the stuff you have done and how close/similar is new task to what you have already did in the past.

    What you did is typical "menager thinks it's a easy job for technical deparment" ;P
     
  8. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    I know, that's what I'm talking about. My point is twofold: 1) Having part of fireteam notes in the Army and part only in Wiki leads to chaos, and 2) Having none in the Army is inconvenient. And this is not disputed.

    I understand that moving them would be a lot of work, but I'm arguing that until it's possible to do it they should stay as they were, listed with skills.
     
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  9. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Oh nobody is questioning that's a problem, and that would be a good improvement.

    All I'm refering to "it's a easy thing, move this text next to other one etc." ;D
     
  10. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    Yup, that was a case of me open mouth, insert foot ;P
     
  11. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Well it's quite common and understandable thing for "ordinary people".

    But it's a nightmare if done by managers.
     
  12. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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  13. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    I've started actually doing Dilbert bingo (mark every strip which had happened in work).

    I've stopped. I'm pesimistic and bitter enough.
     
  14. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    For what it's worth, all Fireteam Skill pages on the wiki (so what you go to when you click on the Skill in Army) now have a link to the list of Fireteams.
     
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  15. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    True that.

    I hope we'll get some confirmation on the OS linkability soon.

    edit: I've came across a discussion about Wildcards on Mayacast fb page, and a thought struck me; instead of removing fireteam notes from the Army because it's not a skill, wouldn't it be easier to actually make Fireteam a skill and be done with it? It'd also allow to make Wildcard cleaner. Example:

    Wildcard L1 - only one/link (like in IA).
    Wildcard L2 - two/link.
    Wildcard LX - no limit.
     
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  16. Maksimas

    Maksimas Heavy Infantry Addict Maxim

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    Question
    Am I now hallucinating
    Or is Army acting up
    But
    The only Fireteam options for Teutons and Magisters I can see on Infinity army
    Is a Teuton Haris.
    And Magisters counting as Teutons for it.

    Is this a mistake or is it intentional? Since, ya know... it kinda looks weird?
     
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  17. SmaggTheSmug

    SmaggTheSmug Well-Known Member

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    I have the book in hand and it lists Core for both. But neither version of Army has it.
    So which is it?
     
  18. herod1204

    herod1204 Knight of Santiago

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    It is always the book. Army doesn't necessarily have to list fireteams as they aren't skills, it was just a quality of life thing. What it says in the book is gospel, so cores all round!

    Sent from my SM-A520F using Tapatalk
     
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  19. Maksimas

    Maksimas Heavy Infantry Addict Maxim

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    Good 'ole ''Wiki says one thing, book says another, and the Army decides to say something completely different.''
     
  20. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    Yeah, that's exactly what I've been talking about with @ijw. Having only some of the fireteams in the Army leads to bigger confusion than having all of them there.
     
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