Oh that's a bit disappointing. Probs better this way though so we don't invest in her character before she gets yanked. Still feels like yu jing and to a slightly lesser extent piano are very faceless. We have our recreation, a policeman and a grunt trooper. Makes me jealous of the personalities ariadna has.
Companies like CB and GW do not owe anybody anything. They can be a kind or harsh to customers as much as they want. They don't owe people apologies, or communication, or good fluff or anything. It's their sandbox and we pay $$$ to come play in it. Vote with your $$$ droning on and on the forums is meaningless. You really think a staff member is going to read something you wrote and then policy is gonna change from that? Not gonna happen. It's like when fans hate the ending of a movie so they start their petitions and their blogs ranting and raving. Honestly I find it refreshing to see a company/employee/artist telling its customers/fans that they're being dumb and to suck it up. People working retail jobs wish they could say to customers all the time that they're morons. Waiters and waitresses wish they could tell the guy causing a scene over a meal that its not the end of the world and to grow up. How many directors or writers wish they could tell fans what they think? Or continue and provide more salt.
Do you even know what feedback is? Do you even know how marketing and businesses work? Did you see what happened to GW and how they had to change their policies? And GW is much MUCH stronger than CB
I really get it, You guys are pissed at CB. If You really want to vent, You can always go in the footsteps of this guy: http://tencopper.com/article/2015/09/man-burns-warhammer-army-over-age-of-sigmar/ As a side note: the coming of Age of Sigmar is what made me start Infinity in the first place - I still have some ~400 painted Dwarves in my cupboard, but I refuse to play them after the Old World was destroyed by GW. Just sayin`. If You are really that pissed, vote with You wallets. I`m also sure You have matches and a video cam in Your phone. Gasoline should be avaiable just round the corner :-P.
The law does not fully agree with you. They have some responsibilities to their customers with regards to supplying products that are properly labelled, safe to use, etc etc. For instance, a product must be sold properly labelled with its intended use. Can't label a candle "torch" and can't label a red candle "green candle", exactly which recourse the customer has when such labels are wrong differs from country to country, but in the case of Uprising I think it's fair to say that purchases made within a certain time frame would've been merited a refund to those who felt they wanted it because CB failed to give head-notice. That time frame has passed for nearly all countries, I would say. Edit: Well. Unless the boxes still label JSA as Yu Jing, in which case it's false advertising.
I suppose it might need to go to court - after all, the models can still be used to play Infinity, just not in the faction you want to.
Yup. And I don't think enough people actually complained for it to go to the various instances handling customer complaints, let alone class action. Partly because it'd probably be your friendly local gaming store taking the hit and them having to go after CB after the fact, and partly because it's not a lot of money and in some countries it wouldn't amount to enough to merit the attention of an authority.
Customer Care is ANYWAY important for the further purchases by disaffected clients. . . Electronic Arts had produced "Mass Effect 3" that SOLD MILLIONS and made a BIG SPLASH in the Entertainment Industry. . . And then they made the SUBPAR "Mass Effect: Andromeda" whose clientbase reaction was "Cheap Knoc-Off" at best and "You Betrayed Us !!" at worst. . . Now that E.A. is launching the pre-bought of "Anthem" the European Videogamers base reaction to "Hey chums ! Buy Now Betas !!!" is more-or-less: "Bwah-ha!-ha!-ha!-ha!-ha!-ha!-ha! NOPE !!! Let's wait a couple of months after Day One BEFORE even CONSIDERING buying Anthem. . ." . . . . . What I really think is that WHATEVER is the cause (was Corvus Belli first? Where particularly vociferous disgruntled Players first ??) when the level of poison reach those "Salt Teardrinkers" level then MAYBE is better to let the Thread simmer down and die. . . . . . . . And it was ALL sparked by the innocent questions of a Pan-O Player that simply asked. more or less: "Hey, Yujing chums ! I'm very glad of My upcoming releases!! Why You are so disgruntled with Yours ???" Let's see HOW Invincible Army Sectorial will develop and be played by anyone. . . . . . . . I, for one, would be VERY GLAD to play against WHATSOEVER Yujing Players that try new stuff! UNFORTUNATELY in Northern Italy the usual destiny of Infinity Boxes in MANY of the L.G.S. that I visited is to "Take The Dust of Ages, in High Unreachable Shelves". . . This is because many Retailers DO NOT GIVE A SHIT to diffuse the Game in L.G.S. and there are Persons that have NOT EVEN the Human Sphere Manual. . . . .!!! . . . . . In Italy Infinity Wargame is "Dying of Neglect" !!! . . . . . I really HOPE to read in the immediate future enthusiastic Battle Reports by Yujing Players that write: "Yep, My I.A. squad was a little subpar, but I ANYWAY kicked Pan-O Arses with this daring mix of Troops. . . . !!"
YJ didn't have the ability to destroy PanO before or during the Uprising. We've been through this and you always view it from the position of the US, which is not comparable to the position of YJ during or not during Uprising. You also forget that MAD is not applicable in the Sphere. You are using knowledge of the modern world to try to criticise a setting which doesn't match it, not because it is fictional, but because the parallel does not apply. PanO is not the US, Yu Jing is not China, the Sphere is not Earth.
If you want to get into how the Yanjing managed to outfox the Hexahedron and got blindsided by the Kempetei: the British Imperial SIS ran rings around the Third Reich's intelligence agencies and utterly failed to spot the actions of Kim Philby. Blind spots exist. Institutionalised delusion exists. Budgetary confinements exist. The Yanjing did not allocate the agents or the finances or the intellectual consideration towards the Kuge and the Uprising was the consequence. Perhaps the price of out foxing the Hexahedron was in fact that level of institutional focus, perhaps against the criticisms of parts of the staff that were ignored. The Strategic Calculus of Haqq and Nomads is that both PanO and YJ are a threat and if the Uprising is happening, better to make an ally in Japan and have its support in future than not. YJ is not going to thank them for otherwise. If you act like an Imperial power nobody will assist you because everyone knows that you won't return the goodwill. That's a strong strategic calculus too; from a strong enemy and circumstantial block against PanO comes a weaker enemy that still is a substantial block but also a weak ally. Better the latter than former.
Why not? Ok, so why should we get invested? The people don't behave like people, the nations don't behave like nations, up is down, black is white, what's there to make sense?
Maybe science fiction isn't for you. I hope you don't watch this movie called star wars. They have bad guys who are bad just for the sake of being bad and their space doesn't even really act like real space! How disgusting of them. I have an encyclopedia you can borrow, might be more your style.
Sorry, but what kind of nonsense reply is this to someone pointing out that the factions are not literal translations of current powers? How do you get invested enough to use a frog-insect alien logo as your profile pick? What current nation do you feel like they represent?
Star Wars is something akin to space fantasy, complete with magic swords, magic, evil emperors, and so on. And I'm a fan (or I was, before the Dark Times. Before the Mouse.) The characters in it are over the top, heroic archetypes, and the stories are mythological/fairy tales. But the characters, somehow have believable motivations (Han Solo at the start is all about money, Luke is whiny but has a heroic heart, etc). So I love science fiction, even if I don't feel Start Wars is science fiction, despite enjoying it. But science fiction starts with the question of "what if..." So, for example, what if people made contact with aliens? What if people had to deal with transhumanism eroding the boundaries between human and machine? And a good science fiction story will make you believe that these people are reacting in believable ways to unbelievable circumstances. In the context of Uprising, though, the circumstances are unbelievable, as you'd expect for science fiction , but the reactions to them by the actors in the story are just head-scratching rather than believable. So I think it fails on that level.
Well, fantasy in space is a specific genre, you're right. I cannot get why you mentioned science fiction though :D
I'm trying to point out that the basic science fiction question, "What if..." breaks down in the writing I'm talking about. Someone's saying "What if this happened? Therefore this other thing would happen." and I'm scratching my head and going "No, I don't think that thing you think is a logical consequence jives with our understanding of human nature and geopolitics." I picked Combined Army as my first faction for this game more on aesthetics than anything else (the Anathematic model), I wouldn't say I identify with them. The Malignos logo is neat-looking, in my opinion.
I do keep forgetting that you are the arbiter of human nature and geopolitics. I mean it's crazy that you aren't the head of the United nations or even president yet. I apologize. No where in history has there ever been genocide committed. Like how there has never been a point in time where any group after a terrorist attack were completely blinded by rage and acted inhumanely and inappropriately. Heck it's a good thing after 9/11 no one in America wanted revenge and was totally fine with invading Afghanistan and Iraq. It's also great that history never repeats itself and that everyone always learns from mistakes and from the past, such a wonderful utopia we live in. You must truly be alot of fun at parties or when discussing movies. I mean how dare any writer ever think to put something down without even consulting you on if this aligns with current human nature and the geopolitical climate in order to maintain the strictest of realism so as we can achieve maximum connection with the story.
