Pretty sure it was already FAQ'd, but the book is going to provide the "reviewed and updated" rules that came via pdf - NCO, Jumper LZ, Full Auto, Counterintelligence, etc
Doesn't look like it. It's been "imminent" for a while, though, but who knows what the final form of the rules would be. RAW atm it does stack.
It did get FAQd, but it’s currently sitting in a forum thread where it’s hard to find, rather than in the main FAQ document. I think the videos mentioned that a bunch of the new rules would get formal release in this book with tweaks and fixes; expect Full Auto + Suppressive to be covered there.
I think Fatality on Sogarats would be good. Even if just level 1. Makes them scarier vs HI and TAGs. If we were avoiding Full Auto as an option for them, I'm not sure what else particularly fits with the themes of MAF, except maybe Mimetism - which is a Morat staple. The other option would be to give them more of a toolbox of gear - Shotgun sidearms, mines, grenades, etc. Please though... *Please*... Do not stack CC skills on Sogarats. They already pay for CC20 on their profile and never use it. MA or NBW would just be more bloat.
Is Fataility good for the Sogarats tho? It gives them more damage, but they already have really nice damage with their heavy weapons. Damaging heavy infantry and tags is what they already do well. I think they need to hit better, don't they?
It would be something - and i think they deserve it for the sheer size of their guns alone. The feuerbach profile in particular would be amped up by it - remember that that dude has an assault pistol too.
I'd just rather be able to win shooting matches though. A Sogarat that can win a shootout with a normal Furback or HMG is better than a Sogarat that can't win a shootout but has more damage, right?
So you are proposing what exactly? +1 BS? I mean, I suggested Mimetism as part of the same post where I suggested Fatality L1... And Mimetism would help them win the FtF... It is, afterall, a Morat staple. And costs about 1pt on a model's profile.
Mimitism would be very good, wouldn't it? I know it is a little simple, but I guess that is the Morat approach! And it is traditional. +1 BS is just fine too, but seems not as traditional. Or Marksmanship part 2 to get rid of cover, which would be very useful against most enemies. Or Full Auto, which is a very sexy skill and seems like Morat made! Anything that increases shots, raises BS or lowers enemy BS would be good for me.
I know a lot of people are tired of S5 HI getting Full Auto, but at least it's more interesting than just slapping mimetism on everything that needs a boost. Edit: I said "tired of" and I know I've seen people complain, but I did a quick double check and the Kriza is the only unit with Full Auto currently??? There's definitely room for more units to get it without it getting stale.
I believe that complaint is raised specifically by a Nomad player who has access to Kriza - but, tbf, the statline of the Sog is pretty similar to the Kriza and Taskmaster. They did touch up the Sogarats slightly around the time of HSN3, I believe. They gave upgraded them to AP HMG and reduced the SWC cost on the Lt profiles by 0.5. But they're mostly untouched since then, and were the first S5 HI release IIRC. So they're reasonably vanilla.
Yeah, the resculpted Sogarat in the MAF starter was shortly before N3 and featured a 40mm base. The old Sogarat is around the same size as the modern Suryat. I'm not sure if I still have my old Sogarats/Suryats or if I tossed them at some point... I'd bring up the Anathematic as the true original 40mm base HI, but it's pretty crazy/unique (and is S6 anyway).
That would be me. Dude, at least call out people by name. I actually made a full length post about why I don't like full auto and/or frenzy on morats on another thread. I will go find it now: And: So yes, I do play Nomads and I do have access to an S5 HI with Full Auto, but my reasons not to want Full Auto on the Sog are more than just not wanting to have two of the same thing.
@DaRedOne Not trying to be antagonistic but it would be hard not to interpret your arguments as anything other than justifications for not having Sogarats play similar to Kriza.
When you turn 6 paragraphs of writing where I point alternative ideas, explain my points and give out other reasons for doing so, into "the only reason you don't want this is because you can have it elsewhere" you are being antagonistic. We are all entitled to our opinion, and I will keep mine that I don't want full auto on the Sogarat. We might get it, and if we do I will use and abuse the everloving shit out of it because unlike nomads I can pour 11 orders into a sogarat without any fear he will go down, because if he does, he will either get back up with an automedikit roll or my army won't give a damn. I wanted full auto on the raicho. That would have been way closer to the lore and would have been slightly less of a no brainer. What I got was a toolbox unit that I frankly love. In the end of the day, this is the reason I don't want full auto on the sog: it will be boring. Strong, yes, but boring. However, by this point I will honestly take any buff on the Sogarat. It's my favorite model and I haven't brought it out in a serious game since forever.
I read something about Morat Ammo Holidays? And other things about Morats using excessive firepower? That does sound like what Full Auto does. Its seems most Morat to me.
