Invincible Army post mortem

Tema en 'Yu Jing' iniciado por Triumph, 16 Oct 2018.

  1. Zewrath

    Zewrath Elitist Jerk

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    This right here makes me sad that I only have only like to give. Seriously we should demand the change at this point.
     
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  2. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    He's shock immune ;)
     
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  3. CabalTrainee

    CabalTrainee Well-Known Member

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    As much as i agree on that Zhencha should get shock immunity i kinda disagree that we can consider all those ariadna HI "technical superior" if they have only shock immunity and not NWI in comparison to only NWI.
     
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  4. Zewrath

    Zewrath Elitist Jerk

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    I don’t think that’s his point. His point seems to me that Shock Immunity up until this point have been just as an integral and defining feature of the HI label, as being vulnerable to E/M, in fact it’s more consistent than the Hackable Trait, 2W or 4-4 MOV.
     
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  5. CabalTrainee

    CabalTrainee Well-Known Member

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    I still kinda doubt we would be happy with Zhencha loosing NWI and getting shock immunity even if he is more definable as an HI then. I just don't agree with arguing with fluff on this.

    And to be honest CB kinda killed the entire labels on LI, MI and HI with the Yadu anyway. I think it is a shame that those labels are now more or less completely arbitrary.
     
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  6. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    To be perfectly honest, we don't need to be happy with a unit, merely find it acceptable.

    Infinity's structure doesn't really allow for units that people are unhappy with. Those units are dead weight SKUs.
     
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  7. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    Zhencha are not Shock Immune because the JSA stole it during the uprising and dropped it in the Sea of Japan.
     
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  8. CabalTrainee

    CabalTrainee Well-Known Member

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    I don't see how this matters to what i said. I can easily rephrase.

    I'm still all for shock immunity and NWI on his profile simply to make him better. But for gameplay reasons.
     
  9. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, I missed a vital part of your text.

    No one is asking for the Zhencha to lose NWI. Stop it.
     
  10. CabalTrainee

    CabalTrainee Well-Known Member

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    You afraid i give CB ideas? :scream:

    That's why i say listing non-NWI ariadna HI and claim it is technological superior to the Zhencha fluff-wise is weird. That's like all i'm saying nothing more.
     
  11. Shango

    Shango Well-Known Member

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    + not hackable (except Ratniks and Blackjacks)
     
  12. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Vet Kazaks.
     
  13. CabalTrainee

    CabalTrainee Well-Known Member

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    That's one unit not a list of all Ariadna HI. I can easily call out the Hac Tao to prove Yu-Jings technological superiority if one profile is enough.
     
  14. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Strictly speaking, NWI is a skill born from courage and a refusal to give up, not technology. This means that the Zhencha's armour versus a Moblot's or a Vet Kazak has three important divergent factors: Ariadna tech offers better protection against common bullets, Ariadna tech offers better protection against hacking, and Ariadna tech offers no military grade ABC protection.
    Looking at the tech and the fact that Yu Jing absolutely has access to Ariadnan production techniques, it begs the question why they even put quantronic circuits in the Zhencha's armour
     
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  15. Triumph

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    Clearly our power armour is made in china, that's the problem.

    Sun's never given a shit about shock, he's Total Immunity.
     
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  16. Shango

    Shango Well-Known Member

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    Once again the so-called technological superiority of Yu Jing is not represented in game design. I wonder if the designers really care about the background when they creat the profiles… Our armour have nothing superior to other armies (which often do better)!

    We have to resign: we are not better than others, it does not mean that we are worse, but it remains disappointing. It allows us to remember that we are the eternal second :confused:
     
  17. Fire@Will

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    Question for the profile-pedias out there... how many infiltrating, camo marker specialists are there in the game?

    I can think of the Daofei hacker, but who else?
     
  18. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    In this case, the technological superiority is not in the individual suits, but that Yu Jing can field armies of HI in the way that PanO can field armies of Fusiliers.
     
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  19. Mruczyslaw

    Mruczyslaw AROnaut

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    For real?
    Nomads:
    Zero, Brando, Bandit, Prowler
    CA:
    Shrouded
    Ariadna:
    Uxia, Chasseur, SAS, Scouts, Foxtrot
    YJ:
    Guilang
    Aleph:
    Naga

    AAAAND I probably forgot about few.
    There are also close to infiltration units like FD1/2 and stuff.

    There is even more cheap TO infiltrating specialists, but that wasnt a question I guess?
     
  20. Fire@Will

    Fire@Will Well-Known Member

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    Godammit, I meant to add Shock Immune to that list. But, it was a genuine question....
     
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