New wave of Varuna rumors (OMG)

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  1. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    Might be 1.5 SWC?

    In any case its the Kamau MSR you want. That plus Kamau HMG and some Fusiliers = yeah boiiii
     
  2. Death

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    Not just that but just like SAA, the machnist in VIRD has a special fireteam. We are getting engineers in our link teams in TWO pano sectorials. CB has finally listen to us after all these years of complaining. #MakePanoGreatAgain was a success. :P
     
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  3. CabalTrainee

    CabalTrainee Well-Known Member

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    I'm actually awed in how amazing the new stuff looks. I ... i didn't expect this. Varuna might become a top-tier sectorial in all of Infinity in terms of powerlevel.
     
  4. MikeTheScrivener

    MikeTheScrivener O-12 Peace Kepper

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    Wow this is really amazing, I'd be genuinely surprised if anyone here can whine over this.

    While the echo may not be the best AD trooper, he's cheap as chips and brings pretty good weaponry to the table. and at a cheap SWC cost which combos really nicely with our other. more expensive gun fighters.

    Zulus are pretty amazing, especially being able to hide among your Helot decoys, pending on how exactly that rule works. KHD, jammer, sensor LT, what more can a guy ask for out of a camo unit? Pano is going to be able to play the camo shell game with the best of them!

    Helots, oh god am I excited for this! right now my profile of choice is the 9 point LRL. talk about an insanely cheap link team killer. This is going to make opponents think twice about moving a team up the board. 3 of these guess is 27 points! for 9 camo tokens. HOLY SHIT. I really really hope we have a SWC increasing LT. or atleast some discount options.

    As of right now our start box is 6.5 SWC. which is pretty weird, im hoping the ORC feuerbach gets a discounted option for being the LT.
    1.5 MSR
    1.5 HRL
    1.5 spitfire
    .5 AHD
    1.5 Feuerbach
     
  5. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    our far east comptetitors will :P
     
  6. ijw

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    If you look at the profile it's Limited Camouflage OR Decoy. So no Ambush Ambush Camo...
     
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  7. Section9

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    Yup.

    Mines have reaped many an Aragoto!


    Yeah, it's amazing.

    Like, seriously enough to get me to consider PanO, and I'm the guy who hates the PanO rifle design so much that I'm looking for ways to have every single model in my Military orders list w combi or multi waving a sword around instead!

    Instead, it feels more like YJ doesn't get nice things this year.
     
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  8. Death

    Death Well-Known Member

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    It was a pipe dream that Echo Bravos had any visor, Pano units just like their fancy helmets. And its AD2 not AD1. So you can walk on at any table edge. Its quite good.
     
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  9. Death

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    Some corrections. Helots are awesome because Camo means they are not easily dealt with. Having to discover them is wasting your opponents orders which is not something Pano can easily do. And VIRD has some limited shell games with the Zulu Cobra. Remember, you don't need to deploy them outside your DZ. Also, Camo means the Helots have 360 vision to protect your DZ. I think its a great option.

    As for Zulu Cobras, the shock marksman option is a weaker option (and its still a good option). A Jammer + BS 13 sensor unit in Pano is just amazing. Pricey but amazing. The killer hacker option might well be the most used profile, especially in generic Pano. Because this option exists I am assuming that Croc Men won't be getting a KHD and thats now ok.
     
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  10. Redfaint

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    Mhh little bit unimpressed by the zulu
     
  11. Superfluid

    Superfluid Welcome to Svalarheima

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    Why would CB do this to me when i'm painting my Haqq up in earnest for the first time in 6 months.

    It all looks so good, and would be an excellent excuse to run my cutter more than I already do. Looking forward to ruining peoples days with Jammers.
     
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  12. MikeTheScrivener

    MikeTheScrivener O-12 Peace Kepper

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    huh, interesting

    That's kind of neat though, theres a dichotomy between first and second turn skills you may want to use. I'm very interested in seeing the wording on Decoy – my assumption is it's just limited camo but for Holo 2
     
  13. Nisse2MeetU!

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    Welcome back Home Flipswitch!

    PS: Enjoy AVA-4 Croc Men in VIRD!
     
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  14. SmaggTheSmug

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    I'm looking at Jammer from vanilla perspective and all I can think is "meh". For a point less I can get a Black Friar, who is a much better anti-shenanigan unit. Jammer isn't really that amazing when it's not carried by a Ghazi. Yeah, sure, Sensor, but it's not like you're not usually taking Pathfinders and Fugazi.

    For KHD for a point less you have Hexa. I'd trate a point of BS and FD for TO Camo. Nice that PanO is finally getting other KHD units though.

    The Shock Marksman is the cheapest, but thanks to X-Visor with FD it threatens a big part of the table right away. It's just a nasty killer.
     
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  15. atomicfryingpan

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    Not wanting to say I told ya so but I remember alot of people telling me that we wont get nice things because pano doesnt get nice things. They only get mimetism and +1bs and that's it. When I said it looks like they've been having a new design philosophy and will not only give that to us but also older sectorials the negative nancies were ready to pounce and tell me no way and why wouldn't they have done that yet and theres no point in being optimistic.
     
  16. Cartographer

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    For Vanilla taking the Zulu KHD unlocks the rest of the Hexa profiles, allowing you to leverage its TO without paying Croc Man prices or wasting the infiltrate on a MSR (not always relevant granted).
     
  17. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Feueueurbach is 1.5 SWC on the Azra'il and Sogarat.

    That said, it's competing against an APHMG on those choices whilst the ORC only has a normal HMG
     
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  18. CabalTrainee

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    You are clearly forgetting that the EDIT:Zulu can shoot with burst 4 at 10s over 24" (or burst 3 on 10s over 48") against an ODD enemy in cover and suppression. And he only gets shot back at him with -9. If this isn't amazing i don't know what is.
     
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  19. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    It's not Bravo, but Zulu Cobra.

    Rest is true, it is awesome (well seems Zulu Cobra will be a prime tool to remove this Ruiken Unit-9 SMGs in suppression).
     
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  20. MikeTheScrivener

    MikeTheScrivener O-12 Peace Kepper

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    This is true, but the spitfire is 1.5 on the Zulu, so his math still adds up.

    Is there anything we don't know about Varuna at this point? Just what Patsy will do/be?
     
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