Hey lads and lasses. I know I'm a scrub for posting this, but I'd love to get some comments on this list: Avatar test list ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 10 AVATAR Lieutenant (Strategos L3) MULTI HMG, Sepsitor Plus / DA CCW. (3.5 | 137) STALDRON Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0) UMBRA LEGATE Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Boarding Shotgun, Flash Pulse / Pistol, DA CCW. (0.5 | 43) Bit Hacker (UPGRADE: Expel) Submachine Gun + Pitcher, Deployable Repeater + KISS! / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19) KISS! Adhesive Launcher / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23) SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) Q-DRONE HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26) M-DRONE Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17) R-DRONE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) R-DRONE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) ÍMETRON . (0 | 4) 5.5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army I've only ever played Aleph in 200 pts games before, but I'm finding myself drawn to the enormous evil that is the Avatar. Would it work? What can I proxy the rather ugly Combined drones with? Will I ever have enough muscles to actually be able to carry the Avatar without getting a Hernia?
If i were you, i would use some cheeky fucker unit, like speculo or ko dali. If you use bots only, kurgat engi is OK for you. HD legate is ok, but dirty expensive and you will cry if a simple khd kills him with shock. Pick a nexus -7 with khd and white noise + pitcher to cover huge godzilla :) Your main point is to let your enemy focus on avatar until you reveal a ko dali next to his drop zone ;)
I'll second the speculo or ko dali. You need something that can mess up your opponent in his own lines because you DO NOT want to have to run your avatar over there. He likes to stay at arms reach
Thanks guys! I didn't realize Kerr-Nau had White Noice, that solves some points issues :-) I'll go back to the drawing board then and try to fit in a Speculo. Not too fond of the miniature, but the advantage is that it can be proxied by ... anything, I guess.
Here is my list to you :) 1.──────────────────────────────────────────────────10 AVATAR Lieutenant (Strategos L3) MULTI HMG, Sepsitor Plus / DA CCW. (3.5 | 137) STALDRON Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0) KERR-NAU (UPGRADE: White Noise) Plasma Rifle + Pitcher, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23) SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) KO DALI Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges / 2 Assault Pistols, Knife. (0 | 38) M-DRONE Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17) E-DRONE Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 28) ÍMETRON . (0 | 4) ÍMETRON . (0 | 4) 4 SWC | 299 PointsOpen in Infinity Army
I like to use the Overdron with the Avatar. The Overdron with its Albedo can clear out any visors on its first turn to make it easier for the Avatar.
Thanks man, that looks cool. How could I forget an E-drone :-D That is a ... scary proposition. Gives the Avatar a durable body to download into if it goes down as well. How do you get any points over for orders?
I don't think you can download into an Overdron as it doesn't have a cube or g:autotool. Happy to be corrected though. This is my current favourite avatar list. Absolutely savage but you do need to have a handle on how to play it. Krakots are your bunker-busters if the enemy hides everything on the first turn; Apex Predator v2.1 ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 2 3 4 DĀTURAZI Chain Rifle, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 14) GAKI AP CCW. (0 | 4) GAKI AP CCW. (0 | 4) GAKI AP CCW. (0 | 4) Q-DRONE HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26) GROUP 2 10 2 ÍMETRON . (0 | 4) ÍMETRON . (0 | 4) KERR-NAU (UPGRADE: White Noise) Plasma Rifle + Pitcher, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) KURGAT (Operative Group) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17) SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) KRAKOT RENEGADE Submachine Gun, Chest Mine / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 15) KRAKOT RENEGADE Submachine Gun, Chest Mine / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 15) R-DRONE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) AVATAR Lieutenant (Strategos L3) MULTI HMG, Sepsitor Plus / DA CCW. (3.5 | 137) STALDRON Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0) 4.5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army
Aah, I misread the wiki entry. Only shows I shouldn't be sneak-reading at work ;-) Thanks for all the help guys!
I love when people share their Avatar lists. I'm seeing some good new ideas in here that I'll have to try out!
This is my Avatar tested tournament list. It has almost all you need. Backup HMG with marksmanship, overclocked bots, repeater net with killer hacker, link breaking program, white noise, specialists, sensor. You don't really want or need doctor/engineer. The are no orders for that and if Avatar falls unconcious, he has to die anyway, if you want to use mnemonica. Combined Army ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 10 AVATAR Lieutenant (Strategos L3) MULTI HMG, Sepsitor Plus / DA CCW. (3.5 | 137) STALDRON Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0) SPECULO KILLER Combi Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Monofilament CCW, Knife. (1 | 35) KERR-NAU (UPGRADE: White Noise) Plasma Rifle + Pitcher, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) Q-DRONE HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26) E-DRONE Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 28) M-DRONE Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17) R-DRONE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) ÍMETRON . (0 | 4) 6 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army
Like this? Combined Army ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 9 AVATAR Lieutenant (Strategos L3) MULTI HMG, Sepsitor Plus / DA CCW. (3.5 | 137) STALDRON Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0) OVERDRON 2 Heavy Rocket Launchers / . (2 | 57) STALDRON Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0) E-DRONE Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 28) M-DRONE Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17) R-DRONE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23) SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) ÍMETRON . (0 | 4) 6 SWC | 298 Points Open in Infinity Army
Combined Army ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 9 AVATAR Lieutenant (Strategos L3) MULTI HMG, Sepsitor Plus / DA CCW. (3.5 | 137) STALDRON Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0) OVERDRON 2 Heavy Rocket Launchers / . (2 | 57) STALDRON Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0) KURGAT (Operative Group) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17) SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) E-DRONE Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 28) M-DRONE Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17) R-DRONE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) R-DRONE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) 6 SWC | 296 Points Open in Infinity Army Combined Army ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 9 AVATAR Lieutenant (Strategos L3) MULTI HMG, Sepsitor Plus / DA CCW. (3.5 | 137) STALDRON Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0) OVERDRON 2 Heavy Rocket Launchers / . (2 | 57) STALDRON Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0) KURGAT (Operative Group) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17) E-DRONE Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 28) M-DRONE Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17) M-DRONE Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17) R-DRONE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) 6 SWC | 299 Points Open in Infinity Army
Very true. One way to make the above list into a ten order uses an Imetron but it seems to be good. Combined Army ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 10 AVATAR Lieutenant (Strategos L3) MULTI HMG, Sepsitor Plus / DA CCW. (3.5 | 137) STALDRON Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0) OVERDRON 2 Heavy Rocket Launchers / . (2 | 57) STALDRON Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0) KURGAT (Operative Group) Mk12, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23) E-DRONE Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 28) M-DRONE Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17) R-DRONE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) R-DRONE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) ÍMETRON . (0 | 4) 6 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army Is there something I'm missing in order to make an 1 group, 11 order list without an Imetron?
I used this list... Combined Army ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 10 AVATAR Lieutenant (Strategos L3) MULTI HMG, Sepsitor Plus / DA CCW. (3.5 | 137) STALDRON Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0) OVERDRON 2 Heavy Rocket Launchers / . (2 | 57) STALDRON Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0) KURGAT (Operative Group) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17) Bit Hacker (UPGRADE: Expel) Submachine Gun + Pitcher, Deployable Repeater + KISS! / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19) KISS! Adhesive Launcher / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) ÍMETRON . (0 | 4) IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) UNIDRON Plasma Carbine / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 14) UNIDRON Plasma Carbine / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 14) UNIDRON Plasma Carbine / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 14) UNIDRON Plasma Carbine / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 14) 6 SWC | 299 Points Open in Infinity Army