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You're free to play ISS if you covet them so much.
If you're willing to accept ISS weak points: lack of affordable decent AROers, lack of defensive mod stacking, hyperbloated profiles, …
Sure, you will tell me they have Su Jian, I tell you OS have Post Humans. You should consider if you prefer Zhanyings and Bao troops when you have Devas in that same range of cost. Or maybe you prefer the bloated Pheasant instead of the god damn Shukra. Maybe you prefer a single ninja and Kanrens as your only skirmisher options. Needless to say the so praised mixed links ISS used to enjoy are now common in many armies. And there 's no point trying to compare a Celestial Guard link with a Dakini's fireteam. Even Yadu play similar role as Wu Ming but lack HI weaknesses.

As you can see ISS, like all YuJIng armies, is designed with a focus on attack, YuJIng players rarely rely on ARO, as their decent AROers are quite expensive, and the affordable ones suppose little more than a nuisance to the opponent. But YuJing lacks in defensive mods (camo, mimetism, TO are scarce) and only their elite units have good BS stats. That's why they need smoke. Yet those smoke sources are scarce (monks and KS controller CG ). A peek at Aleph's rooster reveals that despite abundance of defensive mods there're several smoke sources too and very high stats, decent ARO units , prices according stats or even cheaper to what I'm used to in YJ. And you whine because your haris of terminators isn't allowed to enjoy smoke… really...

 

I think you mistook my posting as attack on ISS (Yu Jing as vanilla not referenced at all). I was merely disproving the claims that OS having Smoke would somehow be "OP" and would hurt the game.

Also, mind your language.

See, I know what you mean by "OS doesn't need Smoke", and yes, you are technically right. But that's equally true for pretty much all sectorials in this game.
Does CHA need Smoke? No, they can always just bring extra Grey+Volunteer links to bully their way. Does Tohaa need Smoke? What sectorial needs it?

The point is not in needing Smoke. The point is in having good synergies and different playstyles. They could've easily put Smoke LGL on one loadout of Rudra and basically said, sure, here's Smoke but you pay 40 points for it. That way it's never an autoinclude, but it is an option.
Now, Marut is gonna be seen almost never in competitive OS lists. Even Asuras got a bunch of upgrades just to make them a "maybe" option.

 

I didn't take it as an attack to ISS but compared it with OS as way to prove that OS with smoke would be a superior army to ISS by far. Really, as I was doing it I realized how much better were OS units ranging within the same points costs as ISS units and their fireteams. Smoke and Kuangshi are the only saving points when comparing both armies. Reason enough not to give smoke to OS.

 

Maybe back to topic... and share some lists?

 

Do you even play this game? What is even close to Su-Jian in point efficiency? What advantage does Asura Spitfire carry over Hsien HMG?

And yeah, Dakini linkteams are pretty nice... Until you run into AHD or template or two.

OS does Hacking better than ISS, and it can make a dedicated infiltration list (a nice, but middling strength one). That's about it.

In general, while ISS and OS have different strengths and weaknesses, I'd rate them on par for power-level.

However, I claim that unless the Smoke comes on a particularly OP unit, it would actually change little in OS overall power level, while help Asura Spitfire and Marut see table in OS.

 

OSS support structure - healing, repairing, CoC, etc - is far superior to that of the ISS. Our units are far more durable (while on topic, NWI and +1 ARM are some of the advantages Asura has over Hsien). Yadu are a top of the line combat unit, even before mixing in Deva, Asura or Rudra. The list can go on.

And Alric is right. This is a thread for posting lists, not debating power levels. We have quite a few other threads specifically for OSS.

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MARUT Lieutenant (Strategos L3) MULTI HMG, Heavy Flamethrower, Nanopulser / AP CCW. (3 | 120)
KARKATA Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0)
ARJUNA Shock Marksman Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 37)
x2 KIRANBOT E/Marat, Cybermines / Electric Pulse. (8)
PROXY Mk.1 Engineer Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
PROXY Mk.2 Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
PROXY Mk.5 (Forward Observer) 2 Submachine Guns, Nanopulser, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
DAKINI Tacbot MULTI Sniper Rifle / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 21)
DAKINI Tacbot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 21)
DAKINI Tacbot Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 15)
DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
NETROD . (0 | 4)

6 SWC | 300 Points

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Doesn't that make it a Mk.60?

 

No, it's a minus, therefore it's "-7"

 

After tangling with TAK over the weekend I'm considering something like this...

Operations Subsection of the S.S.S.
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GROUP 1 10
DEVA Lieutenant (Sensor) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
DAKINI Tacbot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 21)
DAKINI Tacbot Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 15)
DEVA (Sensor) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
YADU (NCO) HMG / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (2 | 41)
SHAKTI Hacker (Killer Hacking Device. UPGRADE: Sucker Punch) Mk12, E/Marat / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 40)
DEVA (Sensor) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
DEVA (Sensor) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
GROUP 2 4
LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
PROXY Mk.2 MULTI Sniper Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 24)
PROXY Mk.5 (Forward Observer) 2 Submachine Guns, Nanopulser, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
PROXY Mk.1 Engineer Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
4.5 SWC | 297 Points
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Seriously, 19 camo tokens is obscene.

 

@Plex, get a Daleth instead of one of the Devas. It's faster, is another specialist, has its own Sniffer, and Sat-Lock can be handy (especially if you're using EVO as well).

 

I tried a hacking based list. What so you think of it?

Edit: Does someone know why my tablet dont post list formatted?

Hacking──────────────────────────────────────────────────GROUP 1 10 DAKINI Tacbot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 21) DAKINI Tacbot MULTI Sniper Rifle / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 21) DAKINI Tacbot Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 15) DEVA (Assault Hacking Device UPGRADE: Lightning) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 28) CSU Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11) APSARA (G: Jumper Level Z) Submachine Gun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22) LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) NETROD . (0 | 4) PROBOT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

GROUP 2 5 1 DANAVAS Hacker (Hacking Device Plus. UPGRADE: Maestro) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25) YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) PROXY Mk.1 Engineer Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) PROXY Mk.5 (Forward Observer) 2 Submachine Guns, Nanopulser, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) PROXY Mk.2 MULTI Sniper Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 24) PROBOT Hacker (EVO Hacking Device) Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 25) NAGA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30) DEVA Lieutenant (Sensor) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24) WARCOR (Aerocam) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3) 5.5 SWC | 300 PointsOpen in Infinity Army

 

Why no one uses LGL in Dakini link? Shock spec.fire will bring hell to everyone. With such great amount FO units in Aleph you can spame grenades on 11+3+3+3= 20!

 

OSS is an SWC hog, so that 1 SWC can be forbidding ;) Personally I'm used to use light fireteams mostly for defence, but yes, linked Dakini LGL should be a terror when used well. I'll arrange for some test runs...

 

That's a fair point. It's not a profile I use often because of the SWC, but an Apsara would raise that to a 22.... Very interesting.

 

18 without the Targeting isn't too bad either. You would lose Shock though with the Aspara

 

Here's one with a full Yadu link. Kind of leary of hackers in a link because its easier for KHD to pick it apart, and most of the KHD devices do enough damage that 2 wounds don't help to much. Shakti is cool though. Really like the CSU and ABH duos, at least one of them will go into most lists I make.

Edit: how do i get the list into the forums like you guys have it? it just has all the text and html code


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Infected IA by the EI ¡yaaay! @Masebs see in the army options list you can share the list for the forum directly: ---> Export list.

 

Just copy all that text from Army into your post. It should look fine after posting.

edit: Saw some possible tweaks to the list...

Operations Subsection of the S.S.S.
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SHAKTI Lieutenant Hacker (Killer Hacking Device. UPGRADE: Sucker Punch) Mk12, E/Marat / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 40)
YADU (NCO) HMG / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (2 | 41)
YADU Hacker (Assault Hacking Device. UPGRADE: Stop!) Boarding Shotgun / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 36)
YADU (Number 2) Combi Rifle, E/Marat / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 32)
Rebot SAMEKH FTO Missile Launcher / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 22)
DEVA (Multispectral Visor L2) Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 33)
CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
BOUNTY HUNTER Red Fury / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
BOUNTY HUNTER Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
PROXY Mk.1 Engineer Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
PROXY Mk.2 Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
PROXY Mk.5 (Forward Observer) 2 Submachine Guns, Nanopulser, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)

6 SWC | 299 Points

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Exchanging Yadu HRL for Samekh and MRifle for Number 2 allows us to switch one CSU for Deva Spitfire, awesome escort for CSU specialist. Also, Mk.1 Doc doesn't have a lot to heal, but Engineer can be a backup for the Samekh. This also means we now have D-Charges.

I'd love to include a Netrod for our Posthumans, but that would require further tweaks if we're to keep it to one combat group.

 

It saddens me to see so few nagas. I mean this sectorial can take 3 nagas. THREE !

Kidding aside, here is my take :

Operations Subsection of the S.S.S.
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DAKINI Tacbot MULTI Sniper Rifle / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 21)
DAKINI Tacbot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 21)
DAKINI Tacbot Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 15)
CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
DEVA (Assault Hacking Device UPGRADE: Lightning) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 28)
ASURA Lieutenant L2 Hacker (Hacking Device Plus UPGRADE: Redrum) MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, AP CCW. (0.5 | 78)
PROXY Mk.2 Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
PROXY Mk.5 (Forward Observer) 2 Submachine Guns, Nanopulser, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
NAGA MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 34)
NAGA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
NAGA Combi Rifle, Monofilament Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)

5.5 SWC | 300 Points

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Plus with this list I don't need to buy anything new ! I can play with the old Dakinis and be branded an insuferable/backwards/dense jerk

(/jk I'll probably get the new chadkinis even though the kneeling sniper tacbot hurts my heart a little)

 

Ok, made this one for fun plays (we mostly use 20x20 for mission generation) Not sure it's any good tho


Power couple
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ASURA Hacker (Hacking Device Plus UPGRADE: Redrum) MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, AP CCW. (0.5 | 76)
ASURA (Fireteam: Duo) Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 71)
DAKINI Tacbot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 21)
DAKINI Tacbot MULTI Sniper Rifle / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 21)
DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
CSU (Specialist Operative) Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
DEVA (Assault Hacking Device UPGRADE: Lightning) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 28)
SHUKRA Lieutenant (Strategos L1) MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
NETROD . (0 | 4)
PROXY Mk.1 Doctor (MediKit) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
PROXY Mk.5 (Forward Observer) 2 Submachine Guns, Nanopulser, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)

5.5 SWC | 299 Points

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