An active trooper moves with his first short skill into the 2" proximity of the reactive trooper. The reactive trooper declares engage as his ARO. The active trooper declares a dodge as his second skill. What are the possible outcomes?
Engage success (win the FtF roll): Reactive troop ends base to base with Active troop where Active players prefers. Dodge success (win the FtF roll) or Engage fail: Reactive troop stay where it was and active troop end where active player said on first half order. Remember Line of Fire is needed to Engage, and doing Engage lets the Active player declare CC atack too. Ps. Sorry my bad english! <br>Una ranita iba caminando...
Are you sure? Look at the wording of Dodge. But my first response was exactly like yours when a mate asked that question.
Spanish version is without "atack" word. "All AROs generated by active trooper". <br>Una ranita iba caminando...
I'd say the active player dodge does nothing for him in this situation. If the reactive player's engage success he will engage. The rules say that only a FtF attack can cancel engage, and also Dodge state that it defend from attacks and Engage is a movement ARO.
And what if dodging player decides to move back additional 2-4 inches? Engaging trooper does 4-6 inches engage? This does not make sense to me whatsoever. It has to be ftf roll.
This. Dodge is only capable of producing an FTF against enemy attacks. Engage is not an attack (it is, in fact, a Dodge effect as well). Engage is not a specified movement, instead as its effect the opponent places the engaging model in base to base with the enemy trooper. So the active model would Move further, then in resolution if the engaging model succeeds the normal roll it will be placed in base to base with the active model's final position. Please note, there is no upper limit to the distance an engaging model may move, the only constraint is that the active model is at any point in the order within Engage distance (which is the same as Dodge's movement distance, i.e. 2" modified by Kinematica) at any point during the order.
There are no limits on how far the trooper declaring Engage can end up getting moved, just that the active trooper was in range at some point. The extreme case is declaring Engage against a trooper on a Bike, who then declares another Move. EDIT - explained better by @Mahtamori...
First of all, if you succeed at Dodge in your Active turn, you do not get to move. Second, if active player moves its figure, and Engage is successful, the reactive model will be moved into contact however far the two models end up being. Active player will place it in base-to-base contact anywhere around his base.
You can do this now with engage. If you engage, the active player places you in b2b at the end of its movement (at the end of the order). So if you engage an aragoto (mov 8-6) for example, the dude may decide to troll you and instead of attacking he can drive 14 inches to introduce you some bushi friends! Edit: triple ninjed!
No, because there's no way for what is effectively Dodge vs Dodge to be a Face to Face Roll. Neither player is affecting the other player, or the other player's action.
No, im a crazy RAW player. But i like to ask to people who has been playing for more time than me <br>Una ranita iba caminando...
You are new here ?;) Engage can create some hilarious results if "trooper who is being engaged" decide to move with his 2nd short skill. This is the only way to fit a TAG into Armory xD
As long as you don't use the RAW to abuse holes in the rules those 2 are really good ways to improve as a player. But always contrast the answers, sometimes people get some rules wrong, then teach others and then you have a lot of people playing a completely different game. Yes, that's one of the things I don't like about Engage, the active player controling the placement of the reactive player may lead to some nasty outcomes that should be restricted a bit more IMO. Putting a TAG inside the Armory is one of them and btw, is still legal placing the engaging player in the wall?
