Mine Questions

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  1. Cannon Fodder

    Cannon Fodder Well-Known Member

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    Question 1:Can you deploy a mine in ARO without LOS?

    For reference: from ARO
    • It has a Special Skill or piece of Equipment allowing reaction to enemy actions without LoF.
    But I can't find anything specific about mine laying in ARO. Can I drop a mine if a non-stealth model is taking and action in my ZoC while in smoke.
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    Question 2: can someone explain mines and Intuitive attacks?

    For Reference: from MINES

    Mines and Intuitive Attacks
    This weapon allows the user to make Intuitive Attacks: by passing a WIP Roll, you can lay a Mine even if an enemy Camouflage and Hiding Marker is inside the Trigger Area.

    I always thought that you could place mines at any time even near a camo . I know there is a restriction when using the minelayer skill (near camo markers).
     
  2. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    http://infinitythewiki.com/en/Zone_of_Control

    Zone of Control and ARO
    Enemies entering or acting inside the Zone of Control of a trooper while remaining outside that figure's LoF can be reacted to, but only by using the Common Skill Change Facing or Reset, unless the trooper has a Special Skill or piece of Equipment that can be used without LoF.

    Mines don't say they can be used as an ARO without LoF, so they can't.
     
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  3. Cannon Fodder

    Cannon Fodder Well-Known Member

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    Can you give an example? The closest I can find is a Jammer that states no LoF is needed for an attack. But nothing specifically about AROing. Considering Mines never need LoS/LoF and technically are not attacks.

    Going back to the rules you quoted "piece of Equipment that can be used without LoF." which a mine qualifies as since its never needs LoF
     
  4. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    1. See the Requirements for the Mines Skill. ;-)

    REQUIREMENTS
    In the Reactive Turn, LoF to the Active trooper is required.


    2. See the yellow box in the Mines rule:

    REMEMBER
    A Mine cannot be placed if there is an enemy Camouflage or TO Marker inside its Trigger Area. This rule does not apply if there is a valid, non-camouflaged enemy inside the Trigger Area, or if the Mine is deployed as an Intuitive Attack.
     
  5. Cannon Fodder

    Cannon Fodder Well-Known Member

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    Oops...

    Out of curiosity... what do all the rules quoted above apply to then. If you miss that 1 line, the other 2 spots imply its possible. Is there any "piece of Equipment that can be used without LoF."?
     
  6. paraelix

    paraelix Seed Embryo Scholar

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    Hacking and Jammers can be used without LoF, but inside ZoC (or Hacking area).

    EDIT - I derped, Hacking Devices are equipment, Jammers are a weapon. I had a quick scan through the usual deployable equipment and couldn't find anything that didn't require LoF in ARO.
     
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    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Sixth Sense can also be a valid response to that question I think.
     
  8. Cannon Fodder

    Cannon Fodder Well-Known Member

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    I looked that up, Sixth sense only kicks in if you are the target of an attack.
     
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    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    If a mine-carrying trooper is in a fireteam of 4+ and is subjected to an attack from outside of LOF, such as Speculative Fire, this mine-laying trooper may respond with dropping a mine (forgoing Dodging, etc) thanks to Sixth Sense removing the requirement for LOF, is what I mean.
     
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