Name three units per faction you'd want to change

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  1. loricus

    loricus Satellite Druid

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    You can only have 4 mates anyways isn't that easily filled up by other troops?
     
  2. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    One 'issue' with Igao's is that they're a single bad roll away from death. That's just the rule in Nomads, so it's not really a downside.

    The other issue is that they're exposed in the midfield. This isn't really a Nomad problem. Even in Corregidor they're likely to be paired with Morans.

    Igao are great. But there's limits / alternatives in faction that mean that they're not as much of a standout as Bandits are.
     
  3. loricus

    loricus Satellite Druid

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    That realistically has to be true about some troops in Tohaa.
     
  4. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    People take Tohaa models without Symbiont Armor?
     
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  5. Del S

    Del S Tunguskaball

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    Well, they do take the Kaeltar Specialists...
     
  6. loricus

    loricus Satellite Druid

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    Unless you're playing 10 order lists only.
     
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    Abrilete Well-Known Member

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    Technically, it's possible to build a 13-Order list with just Symbiont Armour troopers. But, do you know what we need to do that?

    Yup, a Sakiel Box.
     
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  8. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    It's more common where everything that is intended to be used actively for FTFs has Symbioarmour.
     
  9. Del S

    Del S Tunguskaball

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    Good heavens, just look at the time.
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  10. Ben Kenobi

    Ben Kenobi Well-Known Member

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    What doesn't help against target, who have structure and not wounds. Like a TAG.
    If you have a unit that is cheep but is useful in < 20% of the games than the points are waisted.
     
  11. Benkei

    Benkei Well-Known Member

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    Yes, because you see TAGs 80% of the games... and you sure need that i-Kohl versus remotes with their huge CC numbers
     
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  12. Shinen

    Shinen Well-Known Member

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    I-kohl is a cc special skill, so natural born warrior would cancel it too.
     
  13. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    So... the Igao is only marginally better than the O-Yoroi. That's it among STR units, unless I'm missing one.

    @Shinen most Natural Born Warrior units aren't as good as the Igao. The playing field will be levelled, but they'll still be fighting an uphill battle against the cheaper Igao.
     
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  14. Shinen

    Shinen Well-Known Member

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    I just wanted to add some skills/profiles (ajax) which have a good chance agains an igao. NBW cancels so many skills, it's not even funny anymore ^^ some bad things happens after you realise, that surprise attack is a cc special skill too. My poor oniwaban payed the ultimate price, lesson learned. :D
     
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    eciu Easter worshiper

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    I have funny story about Speculo going engage with Sierra ^^
     
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    Nemo No Name Aleph Cultural Atache

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    Dog Warrior in Dog Warrior form rolling low against Electric Pulse on Daleth Rebot. The discussion on what happens was priceless. :D
     
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    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    I had a Speculo Engage my Morlock. I was all "Umm.... Oooh...Kay?"

    I then explained the interaction and let him take it back. He dodged...
     
  18. AdmiralJCJF

    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower

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    You might also want to be careful with a Seraph.
     
  19. Abrilete

    Abrilete Well-Known Member

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    Not wasted, you just apply a -9 to the enemy CC (or -12 to the enemy BS, thanks to Mimetism) while retaining your +6 at the CC roll. Very little difference.

    And having a 25-points Mimetic CC specialist engaged in CC with a TAG is a very good situation for you, you can just leave the TAG engaged and use your Orders in other troopers. Let the enemy expend his own Orders trying to kill the Igao in CC or, even better, let your oponent try to shoot the Igao (and hit it's own TAG several times in the process).
     
  20. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    The Igao will still reliably win against almost any TAG or REM, even without I-Kohl and without Surprise Attack. I-Kohl is what will let it beat even other CC specialists. Even a Ninja will think twice about attacking an Igao unless they're still in marker state to get Surprise Attack.
     
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