I everybody! I'm a new member of this forum and a Nomad player (I have a lot of CA too, but I play exclusive Nomad). Recently I've decided to play always Sectorial Forces and I'm building Bakunin and Tunguska army, after have played Corregidor for a while. Now I'm trying to better understand Bakunin, because I've find some initial difficulties in List composition and finding some game direction. I'm usually try to play 14/16 order list and always run something like this: Jurisdictional Command of Bakunin ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 10 MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) MODERATOR Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) MODERATOR MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 17) RIOT GRRL (Specialist Operative) Combi Rifle, Blitzen, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30) RIOT GRRL (Fireteam: Haris) Combi Rifle, Blitzen, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 30) RIOT GRRL Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 34) PROWLER Spitfire, D-Charges / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 36) ZERO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21) GROUP 2 4 1 1 ZOE & PI-WELL . (0 | 47) ZOE (Hacking Device. UPGRADE: Stop!) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28) PI-WELL Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 19) ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) ZERO (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 19) ZERO (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 19) MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 6) 6 SWC | 298 Points Open in Infinity Army I've find a lot of troubles trying to change this, maybe leaving home the prowler, using Taskmaster, Bran or using minelayer ecc... but I'm doing ok? I'will play Healer/Custodier/Kusanagi Haris (when may painter give me back my miniatures) but what else? I've found difficult to play against long range weapon, strong aro link and To Camo...
the first time I've played Bakunin I have used Taskmaster instead of Prowlers (and maybe only one zero), against Yu Jing and a Hac Tao that burn the hell in my army in his first round..... I had difficulties against his defensive core link without long range weapons... My second time I've tried Prowlers to be near his deploy and Bran (piece I Love) and by this way I'd feel a little better. I run PWell and Zeros to make missions, with Riott and Prowlers/Taskmaster ecc to kill things.
Take a full Riot Grrl core. Use Morlocks, plural. Swap out the Grrls Haris for a Kusanagi Haris. Use Morlocks. As in more than one. Run Uberfalls. FFS use 2+ Morlocks. [emoji14]
Jurisdictional Command of Bakunin ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 4 4 4 ZOE & PI-WELL . (0 | 47) ZOE (Hacking Device. UPGRADE: Stop!) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28) PI-WELL Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 19) ZERO (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19) DAKTARI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14) MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 6) MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 6) MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 6) MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 6) GROUP 2 7 3 3 MODERATOR MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 17) MODERATOR Spitfire / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 15) MODERATOR Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 11) MODERATOR Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) REVEREND MOIRA MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Shock CCW. (1.5 | 34) TSYKLON Spitfire, Pitcher / Electric Pulse. (1 | 31) BAKUNIN ÜBERFALLKOMMANDO . (0 | 23) CHIMERA Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Eclipse Grenades / Viral CCW. (0 | 20) x3 PUPNIK DA CCW. (0 | 3) BAKUNIN ÜBERFALLKOMMANDO . (0 | 23) CHIMERA Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Eclipse Grenades / Viral CCW. (0 | 20) x3 PUPNIK DA CCW. (0 | 3) BAKUNIN ÜBERFALLKOMMANDO . (0 | 23) CHIMERA Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Eclipse Grenades / Viral CCW. (0 | 20) x3 PUPNIK DA CCW. (0 | 3) 5 SWC | 299 Points Open in Infinity Army
Jesus, Solar, that’s a freaking list! Pretty darn ‘up in yo grill’. But who is doing objectives? Doesn’t look like Pi-Well has enough orders, and your Zero isn’t a Specialist. The Moderator team looks static, as well as the Moria. The Tsyklon is awesome, but dicey. Without support it’ll go down with a bad FtF roll. I think this would be hella fun, but I think one would struggle to get things done.
I think this is a very strong start. You have the right ideas when building a Bakunin list. The moderator MSR is not very good. He will get his ass kicked in one order in ARO. I'd consider swapping him and a Zero for a paramedic and a Reaktion Zond. I think it would make a tighter list, plus put a HMG on the table. I feel the Healer/Custodier/Kusanagi haris is only OK. I have more success running three Moiras as core. The moiras are cheaper and have longer reach. Long range, as you said, is a struggle for Bakunin. Your list is about as good as Bakunin gets at killing TO camo: Riot Grrls, Pi-Well. It's not perfect, but it should be strong enough.
Thanks everybody! I'm thinking of trying more morlock and Chimera&Friends the next game, also because I loved that crazy pieces! I always seen bakunin as a Freaking Caotic Sectorial... So you think I have to use Moderator only for a 4/5 order pool and use the swc for the reaktion? My poor Sniper get really his ass kicked always the first aro order... :) And you suggestme to use a 3 girl core (Moiras) instead of a Riott haris?
3 Moira core is fun: HMG+EM LGL+BSG Healer. You can run it with a Grrls Haris or Custodier Haris as your second link. I got tired of Moderator links letting me down: No core──────────────────────────────────────────────────GROUP 1 10 REAKTION ZOND HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26) KUSANAGI Spitfire / Pistol, Shock CCW. (2 | 43) REVEREND CUSTODIER Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 34) REVEREND HEALER Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 32) ZOE & PI-WELL undefined. (0 | 47) ZOE (Hacking Device. UPGRADE: Stop!) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28) PI-WELL Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 19) ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) MODERATOR Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) ZERO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21) ZERO (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19) ZERO (Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle, E/Mauler / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 19)GROUP 2 3 2 2 VERTIGO ZOND Smart Missile Launcher / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 18) MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 6) MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 6) 5.5 SWC | 300 PointsOpen in Infinity Army Kusanagi Haris is your primary order sink: it kills things, pushes buttons and scores zones. Pi-well is your secondary "get shit done" option. Reaktion is your second Attack piece. Vertigo is an ARO option or you use it remove something you'd have difficulty to otherwise (usually in combination with Pi-well). No reason you couldn't straight swap in a Riot Grrl Haris and use the extra points to grab more Morlocks, upgrade something to an Uberfalls, Bran or more orders for your second group.
Yes, moderator SWC choices are not good and they cannot defend themselves better than combi rifles. I wish they had missile launcher or HMG Both are strong. Riot Grrls are good in 3 or 5. Five moiras is too many, though
Full Moira core is finessey but fun. Its absolutely playable competitively: admittedly 5 Grrls is better.
Thanks to your's advices, yesterday I played against the best player of my meta with ISS and I've lost, but with honor :) Higlhly Class ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 10 MODERATOR MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 17) MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) MODERATOR Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9) KUSANAGI Spitfire / Pistol, Shock CCW. (2 | 43) REVEREND HEALER MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 37) REVEREND CUSTODIER Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 34) REAKTION ZOND HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26) TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) GROUP 2 5 ZOE & PI-WELL . (0 | 47) ZOE (Hacking Device. UPGRADE: Stop!) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28) PI-WELL Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 19) ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) ZERO (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19) ZERO (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19) TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) 6 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army At the end 7-2 but... 3 mission accomplished for him and 2 form me with a good game. My sniper gone bad as always (I' have some swc to use and i fall in the Moderator Trap :) ) The Reaktion play very well in active turn, placed in a nest almost at the half of the table in due first turn. The Kusanagi Haris, with the combo White Noise, kill a very tough Hsien Haris. Very funny game...
