Asura HD+ MULTI Rifle is in Army now...

Tema en 'ALEPH' iniciado por Nemo No Name, 1 Ago 2018.

  1. Pen-dragon

    Pen-dragon Deva

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    It is an interesting concept, but I feel like it fits in the Steel Phalanx more than the OSS. The Greeks are the go to for 'make a statement in a loud and messy fashion.'

    What would really be fun is a Daikini variant with a Holoprojector Level 1. AVA total of course. "Here is my courtesy list, yes I did bring a 10 Asura combat group. No, nothing weird going on here."
     
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  2. Nenyx

    Nenyx Well-Known Member

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    "What ? It should cost 700 pts and 20 SWC and this is a 300/6 game ? Don't see the problem mate :)"
     
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  3. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    If anyone would bring ten Asuras models to the match it'd be a sight to see.
     
  4. DukeofEarl

    DukeofEarl Well-Known Member

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    I specifically said "wildly". You sir have disappointed me.
     
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  5. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    "Terror" tactic IMP troop? Ok, basic Lhost (Danavas-like for example) with SS1, E/Marat, Adhesive Launcher, electric pulse, stun gun, flash grenades.
    And to prove a point, Jammer :p


    Lies! Lies and slander!!! That... that can't be!!! >.<U
     
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  6. IAGO242

    IAGO242 Executive Officer

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    I played with the Asuras hacker multi rifle and was disappointed as both games killer hackers got her. But no one takes assault hackers so I think I’ll go back to LT multi rifle.
     
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    theGricks Well-Known Member

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    I as well was very whelmed by her.
     
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    Kir Well-Known Member

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    didnt redrum them back, or just rolled poorly?

    Also, whats everyone's opinion now that shes 3W again?
     
  9. Arlic

    Arlic Active Member

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    If a repeater gets near the Asura (for example with switch) you Hacking them with -3 . Enemy khs kann hack you through all repeaters without penalty.
    BTS isnt that strong in hacking duells (my opinion).
    My experience is that you loose many hackerduells (and a much more valuable modell). So its better to avoid killerhacking duells with her.
    Redrum is for me just an emergency solution. But I am no proplayer and so probably wrong.
     
  10. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Well assura suffer same as old Gabe of being expensive model, which can relatively easily be targeter and killed by some low point SK with KHD.
     
  11. barakiel

    barakiel Echo Bravo Master Sergeant

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    If KHDs are the problem, you can do two things: modify who you use her against, and modify how you play in the game itself.

    It's possible to use her against factions with limited or non-existent KHD access (and she's actually quite good against those factions too.) All of Ariadna, all of Combined Army, Military Orders, Steel Phalanx are all matchups that are huge on visual Modifiers and have no (or perhaps 1 very visible) KHD available to them.
     
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  12. DukeofEarl

    DukeofEarl Well-Known Member

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    It is worth noting that MSV3 can stop Surprise Shot from Hacking if you have LoF. That's a situational help against the skirmishers KHDs.

     
  13. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Well that the point when SK KHD will just use cybermasc and still surprise you.

    Oh KHD, little usefull devices sold by the value of 2 Coca-Cola cans...
     
  14. Nenyx

    Nenyx Well-Known Member

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    She can use cybermask too, so she is not totally defenseless vs KHD
     
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    cogites Well-Known Member

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    She's obviously more viable with the Shock errata rolled back, but as I've said, her general loadout is not that good in N3 due to the way things are priced and the changes to MSV3. MSV3 is like 7pts too expensive. There are a lot of HI on par or even better than the Asura that are way cheaper than her due to this, and the visor just doesn't give back what it costs.

    I've only really ever gotten use out of the Asura against the Ariadnan "here, have ten camo markers to shoot at" strategy, and that was a whole edition ago.
     
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  16. Nemo No Name

    Nemo No Name Aleph Cultural Atache

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    I concur, although Spitfire loadout combined with Smoke Myrmidon can still do work. Just too pricey.

    Yeah, would love to have played N2. Now it's "I spent 8 Orders, autodiscovering Mines and Ambush Camp, killed one Foxtrot and now I'm stuck in middle without proper support"
     
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    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    "Infinity syndrome", or when a model is good, but a cheaper one fulfills the role.
    The MSV2 Spitfire Deva fulfills the same role for half the prize... (less, in fact), so you can place 2 if you want. Just avoid shock.
    And for the H+ profile... Danavas. You now have 3 wounds, in 2 models, one of which has a MSV2 & spitfire and the other H+ and pitcher, in exchange for shock vulnerability, less ARM & BTS, and 1 point of WP on the Danavas, but you save enough points to place 2 Netrods or a Lamedh... -.-U

    Frigging shame, frankly.
     
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  18. Nemo No Name

    Nemo No Name Aleph Cultural Atache

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    I refuse to acknowledge Danavas existence.
     
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    cogites Well-Known Member

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    ...Why? A WIP15 Hacker+ for 25pts is excellent.
     
  20. Vakarian

    Vakarian Bad Nomad

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    The way I see it, Asura HD+ is better viewed as a late-game objective grabber and clean-up piece, in part because losing her early could be so devastating. She will absolutely mow down whatever is left at the end of a game, secure objectives, and be nearly impossible to remove in a single turn even if the opponent is going second.

    That said, she really loses out by not having an LT profile on the Multi/HD+ because that extra order makes her incredibly useful the whole game:

    T1 buff linked Dakini HMG/Cybermask if needed
    T2 Cybermask
    T3 drop into suppressive fire on an objective

    Having the LT order makes her more effective and a great game-clincher. Dakini HMG and Posthumans are your better opening pieces.

    I was really looking forward to expanding to Vedic, mainly because of Asura, but if the Multi/HD+ doesn't get an LT profile I may just pass them by instead, I'd lose the main reason I'd want to run the sectorial.
     
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