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Dos Szalamandra

Discussion in 'Nomads' started by sololobo, Aug 7, 2018.

  1. sololobo

    sololobo Well-Known Member

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    Hey guys, just as the title states, I’m curious if anyone has made a fun list using TWO szalamandras in the JCT. Personally, I couldn’t believe the AVA was set at two, but if it’s real I think it could be a fun list to play. :3
     
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  2. loricus

    loricus Satellite Druid

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    Yeah, could I get two Iguanas?
     
  3. helsbecter

    helsbecter Ultrademocratic subSenator, #dominion Module

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    What the hell, I'll give it a shot. This could work for Annihilation, I guess:

    [​IMG] Jurisdictional Command of Tunguska
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    [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] SZALAMANDRA Hyper-rapid Magnetic Cannon, Heavy Flamethrower / . (2 | 90)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] SZALAMANDRA PILOT Contender / Pistol, Knife. ()
    [​IMG] SZALAMANDRA Hyper-rapid Magnetic Cannon, Heavy Flamethrower / . (2 | 90)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] SZALAMANDRA PILOT Contender / Pistol, Knife. ()
    [​IMG] HECKLER Red Fury / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 24)
    [​IMG] SECURITATE Feuerbach / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 22)
    [​IMG] SECURITATE Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    [​IMG] SECURITATE Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    [​IMG] SECURITATE Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    [​IMG] SECURITATE Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    [​IMG] DAKTARI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    [​IMG] TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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  4. sololobo

    sololobo Well-Known Member

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    I like that list. But, I'm thinking Puppet Master over Heckler for Counter Intelligence due to the low order count.

    [​IMG] Jurisdictional Command of Tunguska
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] SZALAMANDRA Hyper-rapid Magnetic Cannon, Heavy Flamethrower / . (2 | 90)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] SZALAMANDRA PILOT Contender / Pistol, Knife. ()
    [​IMG] SZALAMANDRA Hyper-rapid Magnetic Cannon, Heavy Flamethrower / . (2 | 90)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] SZALAMANDRA PILOT Contender / Pistol, Knife. ()
    [​IMG] SECURITATE Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    [​IMG] SECURITATE Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] SECURITATE Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    [​IMG] SECURITATE Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    [​IMG] SECURITATE Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    [​IMG] PUPPET MASTERS Submachine Gun / PistolKnife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] PUPPETBOT (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun / Electric Pulse. (0 | 11)
    [​IMG] PUPPETBOT (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun / Electric Pulse. (0 | 11)
    [​IMG] TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] WARCOR (Sixth Sense L1) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)

    4 SWC | 300 Points

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  5. helsbecter

    helsbecter Ultrademocratic subSenator, #dominion Module

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    The heckler's goal is to address problem pieces for the Salamanders that they can't pound into submission from the DZ. We have two gigantic beat sticks in the salamanders, so he's a tiny attempt to balance the bashing with some stabbing.

    I'm not sure what the puppet master brings to the table... the way it's set up you kinda have to spend all your orders on TAGs.
     
  6. sololobo

    sololobo Well-Known Member

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    My reasoning was the counter intelligence. It inhibits the opponent from stripping two orders from you on turn one if you go first. Since this is a 10 order list every order counts. Is that the wrong investment?
     
  7. Tourniquet

    Tourniquet TJC Tech Support

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    You can't strip orders from a 10 order group, so you dont need the puppet master
     
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  8. paraelix

    paraelix Seed Embryo Scholar

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    In Season 9 ITS you can't. In non-ITS you can. In Season 10... Whose to say?
     
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  9. Civilized Barbarian

    Civilized Barbarian Praxis' Lead R&D Janitor

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    I'd definitely want an engineer for repairs and fixing immob. Not 100% on the Grenzer but I figure it's a linked specialist and the sensor net with transductors will be worth it for anti camo. Keep in mind your szaly pilots have KHDs too, so they can dismount and make use of the repeater coverage too.

    Let's be honest though, this is a gimick list on par with 4 geckos.

    [​IMG] Jurisdictional Command of Tunguska──────────────────────────────────────────────────
    [​IMG]10 [​IMG]
    SZALAMANDRA Hyper-rapid Magnetic Cannon, Heavy Flamethrower / . (2 | 90) [​IMG] [​IMG] SZALAMANDRA PILOT Contender / Pistol, Knife. ()[​IMG]
    SZALAMANDRA Hyper-rapid Magnetic Cannon, Heavy Flamethrower / . (2 | 90) [​IMG] [​IMG] SZALAMANDRA PILOT Contender / Pistol, Knife. ()[​IMG]
    SECURITATE Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)[​IMG]
    SECURITATE Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)[​IMG]
    SECURITATE Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)[​IMG]
    CLOCKMAKER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)[​IMG]
    ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)[​IMG]
    TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)[​IMG]
    TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)[​IMG]
    GRENZER (Forward Observer, Sensor) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)[​IMG]
    SECURITATE Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)[​IMG]
    ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    4 SWC | 299 Points
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  10. loricus

    loricus Satellite Druid

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    This is a good point considering that you can never change your lists between matches as rules change.
     
  11. paraelix

    paraelix Seed Embryo Scholar

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    Did OP specify that they were playing ITS? That they were going to be able to assemble and paint their list for play in under a Month (ie before S10 hits)?

    I don't think it is unwarranted to challenge someone's preconceptions based on the current season having <30 days to go.
     
  12. loricus

    loricus Satellite Druid

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    Are we sure TAGs are even allowed in his ruleset? Maybe there's always exclusion zones out to the DZ, that would make Hecklers worse.
     
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  13. sololobo

    sololobo Well-Known Member

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    Wow. Sorry about that guys! My intent was not to get wrapped up around the rules like that. I thought the reduction in orders was part of the game. You see, the buddy who I play with is a bit rusty. So, a lot of it is from memory. We talked last week and he stated he made many mistakes in our last game.

    My intent was just to bring light to the two Szalamandras and cool lists people could make. :D
     
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  14. loricus

    loricus Satellite Druid

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    That's how most people think about it including myself. You didn't do anything wrong. We just felt like arguing.
     
  15. Gus-its

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    What do you think about the followibg list :

    Warcor to give his order if needed with command token, 2 securitate feuerbach in ARO (full core team), 2 bots with clockmaker to cover the field and 1 paramedic in FT to try to heal feuerbach or push button.

    [​IMG] Swalzy
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    [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] SZALAMANDRA Hyper-rapid Magnetic Cannon, Heavy Flamethrower / . (2 | 90)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] SZALAMANDRA PILOT Contender / Pistol, Knife. ()
    [​IMG] SZALAMANDRA Hyper-rapid Magnetic Cannon, Heavy Flamethrower / . (2 | 90)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] SZALAMANDRA PILOT Contender / Pistol, Knife. ()
    [​IMG] SECURITATE Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    [​IMG] SECURITATE Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    [​IMG] SECURITATE Feuerbach / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 22)
    [​IMG] SECURITATE Feuerbach / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 22)
    [​IMG] CLOCKMAKER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)
    [​IMG] ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] WARCOR (Aerocam) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] SECURITATE Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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  16. Greg

    Greg Active Member

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    hey! I like this one, maybe I would switch paramedic, warcor and one zonbot for second 8pts zond, and hope for doing mission only with pilots ;) and since I have both old and new Szalamandras (painted) I am really tempting to play this list ;)
     
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