What can we expect from Vedic

Where, barring some extra rules we still might need to see, she will be as used as in Vanilla. For her point cost? Grab a Naga.

 

I'd rather have Atalanta

 

Yeah, I mean the boost to fdl2 and an actual rifle helps a bit, she's too clunky getting into/out of doorways, too easy to catch out of cover and faces extremely stif competition from the far superior naga at this point in time. Badass model but not great rules which is a shame

 

Andromeda already had the Combi Rifle option. SMB, BSG or Combi as long as I can recall.

 

You know...an extra BS on a Samekh isn't so bad...

 

She had it. Andromeda's most expensive profile got DCharges and upgraded to Forward Deployment L2 and pays another point for the privilege. Nobody cares.

All they need to do is to give her Transmutation with only difference being S2 and S4, with S4 also having Guard. Nobody will ever go to the S4 profile but technically the mini stays useful suddenly she'll be playable (not good, but playable).

For only 22 points and 1 SWC, you can get an Order and +1 BS on Samekh! A real bargain deal here people!

 

From the information we have so far I can't say that I don't like the OSS, but to be honest I was expecting some more 'shenanigans' from them... Something new, different and exciting like the AI motorcycle or G: Marionette (I am only using those as they are the most recent). Or an interesting combat remote that it's selling point isn't +Stats (even if that is Structure).

The Shukra are decent CoC/Lt, the Yadu will probably bring a good variety in creating link-teams (supposedly), Dart IS exciting and I will hold my breath until we get the full rules of G: Jumper LZ of the Apsaras.

Then again we are talking about the Sectorial that will have the Post-Humans so I do not know how much I am allowed to "complain" about shenanigans...

 

I think every non-Nomad faction has the same problem: hard to see what CB did with Tunguska because they care and then go back to your own uninspired boring faction, be it PanO, Aleph or YJ

 

Yeah, YJ are pretty boring and uninteresting, especially when ISS exist :v

Oh yeah, i bet things like TAK, Ikari, Hassassin, Druze, Onyx, SAA, Tohaa are boring and uninteresting too, because they're non-Nomads. :v :v

 

Which has what to do with my post? I was correcting another post for accuracy and made no statements about her beside that.

I get that you are pissed that CB has decided the OperationS side of Aleph is different than what you wanted. I'm sorry for you. Some of use like to look at what we get instead of what we didn't get. I'll politely continue ignoring your whining if you agree to stop sticking your opinions into every little window you see

 

I was confirming your claim andnlisting exact changes.

And yes, I also took the opportunity to express my opinion.

Nice of you to declare that to the world. Feel free to ignore all my whining and opinions - you can even do it impolitely, I don't mind at all. ^^

 

I think this is too pessimistic a picture. I rather like what CB did with Tunguska. It's interesting, but not OP. NA2 are nice as well, even if Ikari and Starco look a bit like something created by Dr Frankenstein. What we're seeing about OSS anf TAK is pretty good as well, and the news about VIRD and upcoming older profile tweaks even got got me cautiously optimistic about PanO. YJ got dragged through the mud (with an occasional stone thrown in) this year, but will most likely get IA in January and things might get better for the faction from that point on.

Back to OSS - we're getting some first rate frontline troops, but they're much more toolboxy than what the Greeks has. And it's likely that we haven't seen everything yet. I'm not particularly worried about OSS.

 

Since the big rush of hype is receding a bit, I admit I am a bit underwhelmed by the upcoming things :

- Face it, shukra is just a way to bring CoC for cheaper than the myrm officer, the profile is bland. You are never going to go impersonnation hunting with your Lt / CoC, doubly so since he does not have dogged / NWI.
- If it is confirmed the dancers boost remotes with their own profiles, then it may allow some powerful remotes, but damn, this sounds so booooring (especially if you compare to puppet masters). I was expecting so much more from a unit named after mystical dancers.
- I still have hope the Asura will see further work, because so far what we got is depressing.
- I feel the new remote and the Yadus are the only winners. But only because they have optimized profiles ie : multirifles / heavy weapons options / NWI + Shock immunity
- The mine dispenser feels like the only "fun" thing, but Maybe I have just been spoiled by Tohaa.

To conclude : since the hype has receded, Vedic actually made me want to start Steel Phalanx. Which drives me mad since DART isn't even fucking available in steel phalanx.

 

See, i'd happily hunt (or at least discover) an impersonator IN MY DEPLOYMENT ZONE using the Shukra - it's situational to even be subjected to impersonators... so having it as an auxiliary role to the Chain of Command is fine by me. And since they'll be ARO-ing i'm still on B2 (wish the box had had the MULTI version for B3 and better ranges) if they choose to show themselves.

 

I will admit, I'm a little disappointed in the Apsara - such a cool dossier and render, but the profile is just empty except giving stats to a remote, which I don't find matches my excitement at the model design.

 

I, on the other hand, think that Shukra will have a role in hunting Impersonators. By using Discover in the active turn, when they'll either have to Idle and hope for Discover to fail, or shoot, getting shot back and losing Surprise mods. After discovering the actual killing can be left to other troops, like Yadu. Which are an awesome toolbox of a unit.

Apsaras do sound a bit bland, but in this case I'd really like to wait for the rules to judge them fully.

And Asuras suffer mostly because of MSV3 price. Still, it'll have its place.

As I've said before, I expect OSS to work towards maximum order efficiency. Stuff like Strategos or NCO are one step towards it. MSV3 allows for very efficient Discovering, regardless of range and without risking failure. BMVL2 is similar, if less pronounced case. It looks like OSS players will have to learn how to use multiple units to achieve goals, playing to the strenghts of each. On paper it looks interesting, we'll see how it'll hold up in practice.

 

Well unless the Impersonator is in cover or outside of 8" Shukra is discovering impersonators on 20s ....

 

I doubt it'll be easy - or order efficient - to catch them out of cover, but yeah.

I know people don't value autodiscover highly, but I think it's a mistake.

 

It's more that autodiscover is still expensive if facing a massed camo spam, but actual autodisocver of impersonators might be much more important.

Also Biometric Visor on Lt is not bad as it gives a slight improve in survivibility as negates Surprise Shot/Attack.