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Aleph Operations Themed Lists

Discussion in 'ALEPH' started by tdc, Jul 25, 2018.

  1. tdc

    tdc ALEPH Fragment
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    Now we know AO are coming in the next few months and we've now seen some of the new profiles that are coming,

    What kinds of lists are you going to try in the meantime?

    Me, i'm going to play with the heavy guys in a Limited Insertion list. Shakti, Yuda, Rudras supported by Post Humans (of course) Davanas, deva and a sprinkling of dakini and netrods to bring me to 10 orders.
     
  2. Thirstx

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    Using the information available, I've got a list that's "Ghetto Vedic" that i'm going to try (it uses all the profile information that's been revealed so far):
    Asura Hacker
    Shakti,
    Yafu HRL,
    Yadu Multi rifle/Dropbear,
    Shukra Lt with Strategos lvl1,
    Posthumans mk 2 assault hacker,
    mk4 hrl,
    mk5 FO,
    Daleth Bot,
    2 Lamedh Bots,
    netrod.

    And as an alternative i'm thinking of switching the Posthumans out for a Rudras and try and fill some SWC elsewhere. I play LI lists often and this has a lot of the tools I normally take sans smoke. Updated to reflect uncertainty on Yadu Haris!
     
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  3. Wombat85

    Wombat85 Well-Known Member

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    Where was it confirmed who could be in the fireteam?
     
  4. Thirstx

    Thirstx Member

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    From what I understand, the Fireteam: Haris normal rule means they can form the Haris with their own troop type, but let me verify. My thought process was Shakti, who is a Yadu with Fireteam Haris, and then the 2 other Generic Yadu to form the Haris. I'll verify that i'm reading that correctly though at least
     
  5. Thirstx

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    After Taking a look at the wiki, I see what you're saying, it's not a given that just because it has Fireteam Haris means it can make a haris with itself. Thanks for pointing that out! back to the drawing board!
     
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  6. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Yeah, linkability is all down to the Sectorial chart, just having the skill is not enough. One of the best examples of this is the Umbra Samaritan who can Haris with Xeodrons but not other Sammies.
     
  7. Thirstx

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    Once I started thinking about it this is exactly the example that made me change my mind mind :D. i'm gonna try and fit this Rudras in now instead of the second Yadu. So many neat things, so little room!
     
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  8. tdc

    tdc ALEPH Fragment
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    so true!
     
  9. Urian

    Urian Active Member

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    And what do you think about the sophotect? Its a solid profile, but the mk1 posthuman usually covers our enginner/doctor slot. Just when you take the mk1 hacker she can get an option to be played, but again, theres other priorities, im expecting to play a lot of dakinis in vedic, so i must need both, enginner and hacker.

    Enviado desde mi Redmi Note 4 mediante Tapatalk
     
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  11. Thirstx

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    Quick updated on the gameplay testing. The first game, I ended up classically overextending the Asura (I know better but it still happened ugh), and spent so many orders doing dumb things that I didn't really focus on using the new Yadu and Rudra.

    The second game, I went back and adjusted a list i'm comfortable with and added the Shukra and a Yadu. It played well, used the Shukra to snag a supplies box on the last turn, and moved the Yadu up to a nice midfield position with suppress, but didn't do much on it's own. The third game, I replaced the Yadu with Dart, and liked having her up the field, and used her as another suppression fire vector midfield. I didn't get a chance to shoot any arrows but was able to at least lock down the side objective. the last 2 games were supplies.

    [​IMG] 300 AC + Yadu
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    [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] HECTOR Lieutenant Plasma Rifle, Nanopulser, Stun Grenades + 1 TinBot A / Heavy Pistol, EXP CC Weapon. (0 | 71)
    [​IMG] MYRMIDON Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 25)
    [​IMG] DANAVAS Hacker (Hacking Device Plus. UPGRADE: Maestro) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
    [​IMG] MYRMIDON Chain Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 16)
    [​IMG] PROXY Mk.2 Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    [​IMG] PROXY Mk.4 Heavy Rocket Launcher, Submachine Gun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 20)
    [​IMG] PROXY Mk.5 (Forward Observer) 2 Submachine Guns, Nanopulser, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] DEVA (Multispectral Visor L2) Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 33)
    [​IMG] ZAYIN Rebot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)
    [​IMG] LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] DRAKIOS Combi Rifle + Heavy Flamethrower, Blitzen + 1 Devabot Kydomios / Pistol,Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 36)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] DEVABOT KYDOIMOS Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (6)
    5 SWC | 299 Points
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    Draikos was the point cost replacement for the Yadu with multirifle and Dart, and the Myrm with combi was the points for the Shukra CoC
     
  12. Thirstx

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    This game was against a friend of mine and new Corregidor Player. Nothing really exciting happened. Tomcats did Tomcat things, he had his Mobile Brigada 3 man front and center to keep me from moving up the center until late game, so most of the action happened on the side objectives. My Zayin was crit early and I lost my Mk.5 to two crits in a row early, mk2 got flamed by a tomcat. Mk.4. had the long range ARO's in the center to keep his stuff at bay, and Hector moved up the left side of the board to Coup de Grace and clear a path for the Shukra.

    This game was against my friend who is a new JSA player, and he had some Tanko/Domaru Heavy infantry link thing with a missile launcher holding a fire lane on my left side, and 4 TO camo dudes somwhere on the board. And a Ryuken 9 in a good position near the right objectives. I moved my repeaters up the center avoiding ARO's to put his link in my repeater range, then the Danavas was crit by a killer hacker ninja :( and got knocked out. I moved my myrm up and used smoke to set up my Deva in suppressive fire. On his turn, I used my mk.5 to isolate one of his HI in ARO, then she got wrecked by surprise saito. He then tried to move into cc with my Myrm who was up to throw smoke. My myrm then beat his face to face (Ha!) in cc and he failed his armor save. Unlucky for him. Then I moved up Hector and my mk.4 and dropped them and Dart into suppressive fire after ripping 3 chain rifiles into his killer hacker and him passing 3 armor rolls. this turn he kinda waddled around but was unable to uproot my now intertwining web of bullets and plasma and his HI duo died to plasma and smg fire., and my last turn I moved up the Shukra and my FO and snagged the 2 side boxes. On his last turn, he made a wild attempt to knock out my box holders mid field, but only have enough orders to attack one.

    I didn't have a good vector for dart to go bully midfield or backfield, so I used her like another mk.5 to just be another tough to remove suppression piece .

    That ended up being more than I expected haha.
     
  13. tdc

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    Playing against a Tunguska in a lets try all the new stuff game - still waiting on mission, but i'm going to try something like this:


    [​IMG] ALEPH
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    [​IMG] DAKINI Tacbot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 21)
    [​IMG] DAKINI Tacbot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 21)
    [​IMG] RUDRAS Gunbot MULTI Rifle, Mine Dispenser / Electric Pulse. (0 | 39)
    [​IMG] YADU Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, E/Marat, Drop Bears (Throwing Weapon) / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 36)
    [​IMG] SHUKRA (Chain of Command) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
    [​IMG] GARUDA Tacbot Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 28)
    [​IMG] NAGA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    [​IMG] NAGA (Minelayer) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
    [​IMG] PROXY Mk.2 MULTI Sniper Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 24)
    [​IMG] DANAVAS Hacker (Hacking Device Plus. UPGRADE: Maestro) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
    [​IMG] PROXY Mk.1 Engineer Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] PROXY Mk.5 (Forward Observer) 2 Submachine Guns, Nanopulser, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    6 SWC | 299 Points

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  14. Depravadix

    Depravadix Well-Known Member

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    Today I've played Power Pack against Corregidor using this list

    [​IMG] Aleph────────────────────────────────────────GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] NAGA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    [​IMG] NAGA (Minelayer) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)[​IMG]
    DART Submachine Gun, Viral Tactical Bow, E/M Grenade / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 34)[​IMG]
    SHUKRA (Chain of Command) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
    [​IMG] DANAVAS Hacker (Hacking Device Plus. UPGRADE: Maestro) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
    [​IMG] SOPHOTECT Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 31)
    [​IMG] YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] PROXY Mk.2 Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    [​IMG] PROXY Mk.4 HMG, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 25)
    [​IMG] PROXY Mk.5 (Forward Observer) 2 Submachine Guns, Nanopulser, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] DEVA Lieutenant Combi Rifle, Nanopulser + Devabot / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) [​IMG]
    [​IMG] DEVABOT Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (4)
    [​IMG] ZAYIN Rebot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)
    [​IMG] LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] NETROD . (0 | 4)
    4.5 SWC | 299 Points
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    I have started and he has used a command token to take away just one order.
    I had good control of half a table and I have used the Mk 5 to exploit a Koala without suffering damage.
    In the second turn, after killing their ARO shotters, I controlled a antenna with the Shukra and in the third turn, the other antennas with the mk 2 and the Naga hacker.
    Still, I've lost because my opponent has been able to control my console with historia Datatracker and he has made his secondary objective
     
  15. Iver

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    With the Rudras coming out, i'm personally kind of excited about making a list around the EVO probot and its repeater friends.

    Scylla with double bots, two Lamedh's, two Daleth's, a Rudras and the EVO. Since the EVO is there, why not also run a spitfire and a BSG Garuda. A couple extra hackers to make that zone coverage dangerous and voila.

    Defenitely gonna try that list sometime.
     
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  16. Nenyx

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    Why the lone netrod in group 2 ? Just to bait for a semi wasted command token ? A warcor would have been better for that
     
  17. tdc

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    Ditch the lamdeh and netrod and you can afford on whole dakini!
     
  18. Depravadix

    Depravadix Well-Known Member

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    The netrod is for a variety of reasons, to tempt you to spend orders to kill it, if I go second, to spend a token of command to take away only one order thanks to counterintelligence, and finally, by the time someone dies and have another order and retain the Proxis if they die
    And with The lamdeh y have a repeater por White noise o Many other things
     
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  19. Wombat85

    Wombat85 Well-Known Member

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    But why would they? They know its ineffective, and only one combat group they couldnt take any orders.

    You cant move the netrod to the main combat group so other than saving the proxies it does nothing.
     
  20. Nenyx

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    That's why you should at least change it to a warcor, he can be useful as an ARO/headache piece
     
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