ITS can be played officially at 400 points. If your local meta chooses to only use part of the ITS system, while interesting, is not representative of or comparable to the point that was being made.
Sure, but again, what percentage of ITS tournaments are played at that point count, and returning to the original point, Fireteams are not "unlimited" when the cheapest basic member costs 16 points and all teams need to be formed around 30+ point characters. I have a lot of trouble fitting more than 3 Enomotarchos teams without massive holes in the list, even at 400 points. Tohaa can easily take 5 Triads in a list.
Can't comment on 400 but I've tried ITS at 200 and the balance goes down the shitter. I can't imagine 400 is really any better. The whole game is clearly designed around 300 points as a benchmark.
Yeah... but only 4 triads pack more than combi rifles (even those of the viral variety). Now consider how those triads would work with chain rifles instead of combis... ;) I think I've seen exctly 2 tournaments at 400 pts in the whole area of Madrid since the ITS season started... yes, I agree they become quite the power at 400 and plus point limit, but... not what official gameplay covers. And as I mentioned just above this lines, 5+ Tohaa triads have at least 2 combi rifle/1+heavy weapon and a smoker/melee/template. Myrms and Thoras are more limited, and you have a hard limit in the number of characters, +2 myrm officers (and thoras are limited to 2 thora enomotarchos, plus Hector). Anyway, I'm looking for a solution. The enomotarchos, as it is now, not only offers little in the way of flexibility (with 1 to 3 chain rifle myrmidons as flunkies for the real guns, carried by a hero), but the true advantage, of being able to field so many people able to make better use of less orders, is quite limited. Ideally, I'd like to keep the Enomotarchos as close as possible to the way it is now, but giving it some real value, instead of having so many limitations (in part, caused by the Myrmidon profile, at 25pts with a combi rifle Vs 16 with a chain rifle, there is little reason to field the combi). By turning Enomotarchos into "myrmidons are experienced warriors that can have as many haris as they want", while the Thorakitai fall into the traditional 5-man role, and we can stop bein prisoners of the "add a character for the thorakitai link" (of which 99% of the times is Thrasimedes, because he's a LRL, ODD toting specialist, who I prefer as a myrmidon). At 200pts the best army position is contested betweem Ariadna, Haqquislam and maybe nomads (those 0.5SWC Spitfire moderators...). The rest of the factions are limited to less than 10 orders, or even to field only basic infantry... and in some missions that is enough to quarantee an impossibility to win. Then at 400 points, Ariadna today suffers (I think that will change a little with the new 2player box, since TAK seems to be the expensive option in Ariadna), while other factions are forced to field a TAG or something similar.
Neither are getting anything, for what I can see, since the new CB policy seems to forget about "old" sectorials and drop everything on the new ones... Nor are they getting any way to link Thorakitai without a character (gotta love facing the CA in campaign modes!). Nor are we getting a revised N3.5 rulebook. And for the looks of it, neither will we see the "big FAQ" HellLois promised before Interplanetario. Well, it's not as I have Corregidor, or Bakunin, or SP, or "non-SP Aleph", or full Onyx, or all the Aspects of the CA, or a lot of Morat, or several important pieces from Haqquislam already in my collection. Oh, wait. I do.
What's that got to do with the price of butter? The entire point of Fireteam: Enomotarchos as a concept is that it is a replacement for Fireteams: Haris and Core. Because of that, we're never going to see the ability to take a Fireteam Enomotarchos and a Fireteam: Core in the same Sectorial.
Well, that just like, your opinion, man. That's a bold faced lie. It was a "replacement" for fire teams: Core before there was a Fireteams: Haris and fireteam: duo proliferation. Now that everyone can do effectively what Enomotarchos can do, it needs to be looked at again, particularly since VANILLA factions now have access to fireteams.
Yes, but that's an opinion based on working directly with CB for several years now. ;-) Ok, 'alternative' may have been a better word. But it doesn't stop Enomotarchos having been intentionally designed as a different system to Core + Haris.
The opinion of a long term playtester who maintains the wiki for CB and has a personal relationship with the developers. Enormoustacos came out at the same time as Ft:Haris and FT:Triad (formerly FT:Tohaa), and is still the only way to get more than 1 four member link team, I'd also not consider Vanilla getting Duos (at the tax of at least a command token) in any way comparable.
Enomotarchos and triad make it so potentially every model on the table is in a fireteam getting the +1burst, it seems like it's a pretty good trade in for the +3 bs from 5 strong cores, triad loses the sixth sense of 4 in exchange for not requiring a specific model and being able to use a wide variety of different units.
It's not a good trade for that. Almost any sectorial would get screwed by making that trade. It's the options you can link that is supposed to make it worth it. Frenzy and Impetuous guys, linked smoke, eclipse, good gunners, DTW on almost every guy, cheap chain rifle options. Easily having two links is another bonus. While other factions can do that a Wildcat Haris for example doesn't have much flexibility. It can only do a few very specific things. I mean every sectorial is getting tweaks pretty frequently but I guess they don't overhaul them every 6 months. I want to tell you to "go play x" but no game would satisfy you if the frequency of updates from Infinity doesn't.
The theory doesn't change, you trade a bigger single bonus for multiple small bonuses. Making the most of those bonuses and the optimal weapons etc is far less simple than the 5 trooper deathstar HI fireteam though...
Consider what those triads would do with 2 chain rifle and a combi rifle per triad, instead of what you equipped them with ;) (seems you misunderstood my point :p) Nope. They don't get tweaks "pretty frequently". I would point at, I don't know, Tohaa. But you are talking about new releases (surprise, those are not released "every 6 months", but when they are going to release a new pack of something), while I'm talking about core mechanics. Let's see. I started playing Infinity about 2015's summer or so. Since then I've seen a single profile added to Corregidor (Bandit), and few changes (one of them was the "let's add the Brigada BSG Lt option. Since without it the 300pts army box is not legal for ITS play!). For Aleph non-greek, I've seen the Danavas & the mk4-5 proxy models (in three years!), and I think Hector, Achilles V2, and little more (in fact I thing Hector was the last addition. For Bakunin I thing it was just the Taskmaster (VERY soon overshadowed by the Kriza)... But for Onyx I've seen A LOT (not only the whole sectorial, but the Nexus, Kerr-Nau, the Samaritan, the Rodoks... I'm not counting Bit & Kiss since that was ITS added by a player). Oh, wait. There was a major overhaul: Fireteam duos and Haris were handed out to all factions... but Aleph, while Qapu Khalqi got very little in return (and the Hafzas were taken out from "merc units", that is Kaplan and Druze). Read again, dude. I'm arguing to give Core only to the Thorakitai, and take Thrasimedes out of that by making him again a Myrmidon in name (since he is already one in gear, mostly), while downgrading the Enomotarchos to 2-3 members (essentially making those triads). Besides, a 5-man death star would cost, at a minimum, about 192pts 3.5SWC (Phoenix, Eudoros, Macaon, Officer, Ayax), and you have a single other hero to add: Hector. That's it, there are 4 characters with Enomotarchos:Myrmidon, an AVA 2 Myrmidon Officer, and Hector (who can help form any Enomotarchos of a single kind). I very much prefer a HMG+Feuerbach 5man fireteam of Thorakitai for example. Remember that the wildcat specialist is 10 points cheaper than the Myrm one, and that the "flexibility" is so great that the myrm link always is phoenix+machaon+2 somethings... Also I have been asking for Tomcats to be able to link with Wildcats (or even Brigadas). I want more for all, frankly (but the Bolts. Those need a total rework, I think...).
I'm pretty sure that means you were around for Wildcat Haris, Gecko Duo, Gecko TAG and Pilot overhaul, Brigada ML, Hacker, and Tinbot, and Massacre added as a requirement to Jaguars, as well as Jaguar Haris.
Corregidor is really strong. Nobody could play Corregidor and be like "oh jeez, with Morans, Bandits, Intruders, Tomcats and Jaguars what will I do?!?"
It's all the best from Nomads except Interventors and Zeroes then it get a Core. I've never had a problem.
According to the release schedule (link) Corregidor has only gotten the Bandit, Alguacil Hacker and the MB resculpt box since March 2015. Thats one new figure, and some resculpts over three years. Bakunin got a bunch of resculpts (and the taskmaster). Mind you, they are still in a better position than MRRF and Shasvastii, who were left alone to die (though did MRRF get their rules and stats updated to the baseline from two years ago).
