CC with multiple units

Discussion in '[Archived]: N3 Rules' started by Hiereth, Jul 11, 2018.

  1. Hiereth

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    So, through my understanding of what the wiki says
    Other friendly troopers engaged in that CC, who are not members of his Fireteam don't provide any bonus to the Team Leader.
    so if you are in a fire team it is required that to gain the CC bonuses the other members in the engaged state must also be part of the fire team.
    The same for coordinated orders.
    • In Close Combat, only the Spearhead trooper will perform the CC Roll, getting a MOD of +1 to his B and +1 to the PH Attribute for Damage for each friendly trooper participating in the Coordinated Order engaged with the adversary.
    • Other friendly troopers engaged in that CC but not participating in the Coordinated Order don't provide any Bonus to the Spearhead trooper.

    but if there are no fire teams or coordinated actions then the bonus is applied if the allies are not activated?

    Troops declaring CC Attack apply a MOD of +1 to their B for each ally that is in base to base contact, and in Engaged state, with the target of their attack and is not activated either by an Order or an ARO.

    Am I understanding this all correctly, and if so am I vindicated to think this is real weird.
     
  2. macfergusson

    macfergusson Van Zant is my spirit animal.

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    If the part of the text you bolded there didn't exist, someone would say these different circumstantial modifiers to CC would be able to stack.
     
  3. Hiereth

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    That's a fair point, It's just odd in my mind that it works one way in all cases, except the one it doesn't.
     
  4. macfergusson

    macfergusson Van Zant is my spirit animal.

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    The default behavior is:
    • Troops declaring CC Attack apply a MOD of +1 to their B for each ally that is in base to base contact, and in Engaged state, with the target of their attack and is not activated either by an Order or an ARO.

    When multiple troopers are activated at the same time, they gain an extra bonus, gaining a +1 damage as well as the normal +1 Burst. To prevent this from getting too crazy, you can't stack things up with both behaviors.

    Does it help to think of it in this way?
     
  5. Hiereth

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    Sure, but wouldn't removing the ability to gain cc bonuses with unlinked units also keep them from stacking?

    Either way I believe my question has been answered.
     
  6. macfergusson

    macfergusson Van Zant is my spirit animal.

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    I think you're just re-phrasing what's already been stated at that point.
     
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