Bike deployed unmounted ?

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  1. Arkhos94

    Arkhos94 Well-Known Member

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    Simple question : can a bike troop be deployed already unmounted ?

    The bike would be deployed base to base with the biker

    I checked the new AI motorcycle rules and it allows it but there is nothing said in the Motorcycle page
     
  2. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    There's you answer.
     
  3. Robock

    Robock Well-Known Member

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    The question is, was normal bike already allowed but it had raised questions and CB improved the rule by taking the occasion to add it specifically in the new AI Bike (and eventually they could add it to normal bike if they ever release a new print of core rule) ?
    Or does the existence of that line in this skill now means that other skill without that line cannot do it ?
    What if the ai bike had not existed (ex: a couple month ago), how does one would answer "can a bike troop be deployed already unmounted ?"
     
  4. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Motorcycle units have no option to deploy unmounted, this has been the case since at least the start of N3.

    AI Bikes have an additional rule that lets them deploy unmounted, this is a new option unique to AI bikes.
     
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  5. natetehaggresar

    natetehaggresar Senior Backlogged Painter Manager

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    Where does it restrict the ai bike to be deployed in base to base? It's a g:synch rem at that point, not a bike. Place it anywhere you would place a g:synch rem.
     
  6. Arkhos94

    Arkhos94 Well-Known Member

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    My question is about standard bike
     
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    Do you feel like your question has been resolved?
     
  8. Arkhos94

    Arkhos94 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I'm now sure that I can't deploy dismounted
     
  9. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    See. I read IJW's post the other way. It's not any different than Prone/Normal really.
     
  10. Spleen

    Spleen Well-Known Member

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    But Prone says:

    During the Deployment Phase, players may deploy one or more of their troopers Prone by placing a Prone Marker beside them.​
     
  11. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    Exactly.
     
  12. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    More similar to deploying climbing, in that case.
     
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  13. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    Technically Climbing is just a position not a state.

    Mechanical Transmutation is a better comparison: and that includes a line about deployment options.

    TBH looking at it: Bikes are a weird exception. The general rule appears that you can freely choose the state.
     
  14. Spleen

    Spleen Well-Known Member

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    It's more than just a state though, it's deploying using a second alternate profile, and there's no rules that cater to how you put the bike down when doing so (RAW I'd argue if you're deploying using the second profile that doesn't list a motorcycle as equipment it shouldn't ever be on the table).
     
  15. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I'm convinced by the argument. At the time I still read IJW's post the opposite way to what he intended.
     
  16. Barrogh

    Barrogh Well-Known Member

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    Italian strike, Infinity-style.
     
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