It is what the Shas are good at doing. Plus they hate humans in general and YJ in particular for destroying an embryo creche on Paradiso. (Admittedly, the humans thought it was a command and control node because of all the defenses around it. So we dropped a rock on it from orbit) The problem is that all the Uprising then boils down to "A space wizard did it".
Admittedly, preferable over "a monitored and discriminated human did it", but not as good as "a traitorous sympathiser did it" would have been.
I guess this isn't the location for this discussion, but I want to state for the record I disagree strongly with everything you say here. It is not a accurate reading of what happened.
So you are for the record stating that you believe: The Hexahedron was not formed to combat the Yanjing, this was not done by Col. Jane Dunbar in response to on-going YuJing espionage activities against PanOceania Modern China was not formed on the back a successful insurgency, and a book relating to how to win an insurgency was not published by Mao Zedong. That Yu Jing did not go against most conventional teachings of COIN warfare, and did not cause further problems through the actions of characters such as PsychoCrane. That the Japanese are not brainwashed. That on Page 19 of Uprising they are not described as seeing the Emperor as "the object of blind obedience, a transcendental being" or that surrendering one's life for the Emperor is the "one path to exaltation". You should probably actually stop and read some of the fluff before blindly trying to argue about this, lest you become another brainwashed Japanese citizen.
-Yu Jing followed a doctrine of not showing weakness when faced with an internal insurrection. China has been following this policy for decades (Tibet, Uigurs, Tienanmen, etc.). In this case an unforseen alliance of 3 major powers made this strategy the incorrect one, but Sun Tze correctly identifies a strategy similar to "Operation Anaconda" being the correct way to end the rebellion. -The Japanese are as brainwashed as citizens of the Japanese empire were before the end of WWII. Nationalism is a powerful force. Your last comment makes you sound like an asshole, I recommend you alter your tone.
So, firstly I assume you have retracted your stance on the Yanjing not being the reason for the Hexahedron's creation, realizing that you were wrong to disagree with @Section9 there. I assume you have also changed your stance on modern China not being founded on the back of a successful insurgency, and not covering the topics in a certain red book. You are conveniently forgetting the major part of this doctrine where the suppress all information regarding their dirty deeds in any fashion they can contrive, including causing internet and media feeds to cut out when trigger words or topics are detected. They do not do the following under any circumstances: Under all circumstances China pretends to be the good guy even, especially to their own citizens. They make cute advertisements. They do not do what PsychCrane does at all. They do not talk about Tiananmen square or Liu Xiaobo dieing in custody or any of the various human rights transgressions they get up to. So, brainwashed. Also, your last comment makes you sound like an asshole, I recommend you alter your tone.
Abu Ghraib, My Lai, Batang Kali. There are plenty of examples of individual soldiers disregarding good strategy in the heat of the moment. Not to mention the fact that anyone in Infinity can be impersonated, the journalist could have fabricated it, etc. But in a broader sense, your hyperbolic hostility makes me not want to continue to talk to you. Not sure if that is your intention, but this kind of approach to a discussion undermines any reasonable points you may make. I know tone can be difficult to read over text, but you need to seriously moderate yours if you want to be taken seriously. Have a nice day.
Good, fuck off. We've had this discussion with the rest of the CB defence brigade for however many locked threads already, we don't need another guy on his CB ass-licking break telling us that CB pissing in our mouths is rain and that is good for us and how we should be happy about Uprising.
All great examples of not China and not elite counter insurgency agents doing exactly what counter insurgency agents are trained not to do. You could attempt to make that argument except it's not isolated and it's further backed up by the Yuandun CBLs and fluff that CB later released. You'll notice good old PsychoCrane is a member of that unit. You need to come up with stronger arguments rather than ones we've already spent months beating into the dirt if you want to be taken seriously.
Yikes. Guys, can we just leave off with a "agree to disagree" and just stop engaging? Whether you agree with @Plebian or not, this kind of rhetoric is what gets all those threads locked.
Actually, the threads get locked because the Mods don't seem to be know how or be able to deal with problems in any other way.
I am really not interested in seen another thread devolving in these arguments again, so its a nice point to stop, patch confirmed, more details wait for your own video or the campaign book release.
Yeah, we seriously don't need to re-hash the arguments in this thread, too. @Plebian , @A Mão Esquerda , (and anyone else) if you want to continue that discussion, let's take it to a PM.
