Quick question: How do you resolve an enemy trooper standing in the exact spot of a trooper in hidden deployment?
My question is more the HD trooper, what happens to him/her if the trooper standing on them does not move? Can the HD Trooper still reveal with someone else occupying their space? If they do are the now in CC and where is that model placed?
I don't think there was ever a confirmed answer to this issue, CB being their usual selves. Personally we just place the hidden model as close as possible to where they were hidden but not engaged.
Really? That seems very weighted to the HD trooper. I was thinking maybe they had to at least dodge out or something.
The only way to be allowed to get into Engaged state is by declaring a Move into Base to Base or succeeding an Engage skill. If your HD trooper reveals, and you are allowed to do so since the allowance has not been revoked, the only way to resolve it is to place you HD trooper as close to your written position as possible. And since you reveal for the entire order, your HD trooper will start their Move outside of Engage state and can Move away. So, no, you won't automatically be in Engaged state.
I've usually seen it played that a Hidden Deployment trooper cannot reveal if there's something on top of them.
What would even constitutes "on top of them"? Just a sliver? the whole base? more than 50 percent? what if it's too close to call?
No, we don't HAVE an official answer as to how this case should be played. However the idea that you could be forced to just lose the ability to deploy a unit is patently silly. Nowhere else in the game is this even a possibility.
Like I said there's still no official or universally accepted ruling on this. Do whatever your local group thinks is best.
The closest thing we have to an official ruling is basically "place them close together but separate the bases." http://infinitytheforums.com/forum/topic/31718-solved-hidden-deployment-model-overlap/
I agree with the sentiment... but to give you another similar possibility, suppose you have an AD: Parachutist and have selected a table edge that is dense with terrain but has some small gaps along the table edge. Now suppose your opponent has placed models in all of these gaps and there is no longer any room along that segment of the play area's edge.
Not necessarily that bad. It could be a single 11" long building along one of your opponent's sides, starting from the center. Something like this: That leaves 1" of table edge. Say what you will about the player making the decision, but it's not so unlikely a game state.
Well if your space available in that particular section is that limited, you'd want to take that into account when assigning your section for AD1 troops at deployment. That's not really relevant here though...
And AD1 is significantly cheaper than AD2 or 3+ which allows you to mitigate that downside. Whereas HD has no such options. That being said I'm sympathetic to 'they just can't reveal': I think it just lends itself to bad gameplay experiences.
